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07-13-2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cpmCBJ View Post
The blind faith in +/- being a reliable indicator of defensive ability is laughable.
Who's talking "blind faith"? It is one indicator. The other would be my own two eyes. Stralman is routinely caught out of position and has to be bailed out by his defensive partner. To the point where when I saw and odd man rush in the latter parts of the season I fully expected to see Stralman out of position on the replay.

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You wanna say his plus/minus again? I think I heard somebody say it was -15, maybe it's not being posted enough.

Plus/Minus doesn't do these guys justice. I'm not saying that the people who are throwing out his point totals are giving Stralman a fair shake.

But just for comparisons sake, here's what plus minus would look like if we included all the goals they were on ice for. (the last column is PP Goals by the other team)

FORWARDS
NameEV GFPP GFEV GAPP GAAdj. +-
Russell451442314
Stralman383455512
Clitsome1111002
Tyutin54346127E
Jurcina130113-1
Paetsch0250-3
Roy181207-8
Klesla1932611-15
Methot4104918-26
Commodore3724422-29
Hejda3725125-37

What does this mean...Stralman isn't going to be winning the Norris Trophy but he certainly is adding value. I'd love a lineup full of one-dimensional defensive defensemen as much as anybody but teams need guys like Stralman,
Thanks for the graph proving my point. Who was "better" based on your own graph, Russell or Stralman?

So, why should Anton Stralman get paid more than Kris Russell based on one season? Particularly on a team where 4 defenseman are signed through 2011/12 and there are an abundance of young prospects in Springfield starting this fall?

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