Study done on the decline of QC born NHL'ers
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07-23-2010, 03:35 PM
Join Date: Dec 2007
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It's often a pro-anglo bias 'cause in a whole lot of spheres, you go with who you know. The people in charge are in majority anglos, they want to have their own country club around them. See what the Habs are made of right now.
Seems that there's a lot of possibilities to be confronted with BPA or BCA (best coach available). And the day that a team or more teams will go and get a Q coach without the said coach being picked by Montreal first, then I'll agree that there's no pro-anglo bias, by the way, a bias I don't have ANYTHING against, since I'm bias towards Q players 'cause I follow them more than the others.
Yes, it's true. Q players, as far as numbers are concerned, is on a decline. The quality is still there a lot though. But scouting, or choosing a next coach, GM or else, are done by humans. And after the logic, the stats and all come the gut feeling, the people around you helping you choose, the people you have more confidence in, the ones who know the ones who know the ones.....
I strongly believe that Timmins has not gone more in the Q 'cause he doesn't have a lot of allies in that league. He didn't have a Westrum who asked him desperately to go for a David Fischer who would SURELY play in the NHL. It's clear where his men he has plenty of confidence in are situated. And again, it's his preregative. He's the boss. His boss agrees with his views. He agrees with his boss' views. They have a strategy and sticks by it.
Surely, if a Q guy is by far superior to the other one (see Guillaume Latendresse), they will NOT hesitate to go with him. They are not stupid. But they are humans. I don't always agree as it's my right.
But I can tell you that it's fairly easy to look at the Q and see how it's declining based on the number of Q guys that are picked on draft day. I'm pretty sure though that in this last draft, you would have added a Brunelle, Gauthier, Lachance and a whole lot more, while they might not have ended up in the NHL anyway, TONS of other players picked last june will not end up in the NHL either.....even if they are not from the Q.
Q hockey is declining. Without a single doubt. But I see a lot of people using that statement to feel good about themselves to not see that it might not refrain from other things to be happening.
With all due respect, the claim of Anglo bias is BS and convenient deflection. The NHL has had no problems whatsoever drafting Europeans, especially Russians who couldn't speak a word of English so long as you had the talent to play.
As for the "quality" you still see in the Q the numbers just don't support it. The number of Quebecers drafted has remained somewhat steady but fewer are good enough to stick in the NHL. With regards to the human factor of drafting within Quebec, a pick looked over and taken much later shouldn't make any difference if they could put up the numbers.
Not sure what your suggesting with Timmins though. He's avoiding the Q because of what exactly? What of other NHL teams and scouts?
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