Can Anyone Explain How Redden Was a Plus/Minus Leader in 2009/10?
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08-11-2010, 11:32 PM
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You don't delve into the player match-ups nearly enough to understand the importance of +/- as it related to any individual player... You can't make inferences or generalizations about their play based on their +/- without looking at who they're often playing with on the ice, and who they're often playing again (with regards to line match ups)...
True, but taking into account what you just said... Del Zotto, generally, played against the opposing teams weakest competition and was a -20. The majority of his points, which came on the PP, don't reflect in the +/- stat. Than factor in that a lot of his time during the course of a game took place on power plays. Meaning he was at even strength even LESS than the other defense men. Therefore, that -20 at even strength against the opposing teams weaker competition, with less even strength ice time than the other defense men, is pretty bad and I do think his +/- reflects his defensive play accurately.
In example, Marc Staal was a +11 and he played against the other teams top players over and over again (Ovechkin, Crosby, Kovalchuk, etc.). He doesn't get much if any power play time so the majority of his ice time is at even strength or the penalty kill (granted the PK doesn't reflect in the +/- stat) BUT with significant more ice time than Del Zotto it is safe to say he had much more ES ice time. Signifying that he was vastly superior to Del Zotto defensively. Being a +11 while playing 22-24 minutes a game against the other teams top forwards signifies quality defense being brought to the table on a routine basis by Staal. Again, it accurately reflects his defensive play.
Redden played with Gilroy for a large chunk of the season and while they both received a lot of flack both of them had better +/- than a lot of players on the team. Redden generally faced middle of the line competition. He simply played more responsible defensive hockey than Del Zotto and probably, for at least the first half of the season, Rozsival. Rozsival wound up having a much better second half than Redden though.
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