Tortorella's successes so far
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08-13-2010, 10:22 PM
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Location: Garden City, NY
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MDZ was "known to be on [his] way"?? If you don't give him any credit for MDZ's development then there is no hope.
At least you don't "blame him" yet. But wait, do you? See next quote:
Evidence. Where is it? We all know certain star centers making $10mil a season had their best years under Tortorella. We know he won a cup with a young Tampa team. We know his first season in Tampa was out of playoffs. His second was a second round exit. His third was the SC. He helped build it, in other words. Come on. Evidence.
How about this November 4, 2009 quote from MDZ in the Post?
Man, you have got to be joking me, your arguements here are laughable. I stated my opinion, if you don't like it or disagree with it thats fine, but don't come at me with a joke of an arguement.
If I don't give John Tortarella credit for MDZ development ther is no hope?
Your talking about a guy who may be the single most talented draft pick the Rangers have selected in the past 5 years. From March 2009 when tortarella joined the organization, to october 2009 when MDZ became a nhl player, 8 months, Torts made an impact on his development? Seriously? John Tortarella doesn't even coach the defense.
Your second point is even worse, championships are not slapped together in 3 yrs, and if they are it isn't by the coach, its by the GM. When Torts arrived in Tampa, Brad Richards, Vinny Lecavalier and Marty St.Louis were already there, these were guys with phenominal talent, richards and lecavalier had already produced a 20+ goal season before he took over, st. louis had 18, yes they were young, but these guys were developing fine apperently. Do we have 3 guys in the system right now with the upside of richards, lecavalier and st. louis? If we do, get them here now, because those guys stepped in and delivered. Other key pieces of that cup win,
Kubina, there already, a vet, boyle and khabibulin, traded for.
Yes Tortarella delivered a cup, and I gave him credit for that, hes a finisher, a guy that can milk the best out of a serious contender and will allow supremely talented players the system to do their thing. He built nothing there though, as witnessed by the complete collapse with the departure of a few pieces. Who developed under tortarellas reign thats a star in Tampa now. and dont give me the name of a superstar that would develop anywhere under anyone.
As far as the MDZ quote, let me guess, the 19 yo rookie is gonna criticize his new head coach less than one month into his career as a NHL pro? Ask MDZ in private what he thinks of having his minutes cut for mistakes that he watches Rosival, staal, girardi and redden make with no punishment, ask dubinsky and gilroy the same things. Tortarella preaches rewarding effort, but it rings hollow watching this team.
P.S. Brad richards didnt have his best seasons in Tampa, just last season he put up 91 points in 80 games, the best performance of his career (matching his 91 in 82 games in 05-06)
P.S.S. Yes, draft picks as highly regarded as MDZ are considered to be on their way (as displayed by him being here at 19), as opposed to fringe prospects that may or may not make it
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