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08-23-2010, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhiessan71 View Post
It's not like the Euro teams had rushing Dmen before Orr came along either.
Originally Posted by Rhiessan71 View Post
That's the key here, it's not like there hadn't been rushing type dmen before
Which one of you I'm talking to right now?
Or did you mean the NHL in the latter case?

Anyway, Jan Suchy is the most famous example and certainly fits the despcription of a rushing/offensive dman who was still defensively reliable; in fact, you're the only person I've seen knocking his defensive play.

Originally Posted by Rhiessan71 View Post
Even in '72 the Russians didn't activate their D, yet by '76 it was sometimes hard to tell who played what with them. Watch the '72 Summit series DVD's if you don't believe me, the Russian D seemed to have this invisible line that they wouldn't cross.
Coincidence....I don't think so.
I don't know about '76, but certainly around the 1979 Challenge Cup things had changed a bit, as far as the position of a defenseman goes.

And hey, I'm not totally against the idea, but it would be interesting to see some quotes by Russians themselves where they acknowledge this. In any case, I believe that Orr influenced them indirectly rather than directly; it was North American style in general that was a big influence on the Soviet game (post 1972) and vice versa.

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