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09-29-2010, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyHigh View Post
For the record, Jordan Staal had more ES points last year than anyone on the Flyers roster despite his primary linemates being Matt Cooke, Tyler Kennedy, Bill Guerin, Chris Kunitz and Mike Rupp (source, Dobber Hockey) not to mention he has size, speed and is an excellent faceoff guy. He's super overhyped! I guess this pertains more to the debate of Shafer attempting to claim that Giroux was better than Staal which was entertaining, sorry for going OT.
Same argument some Penguins fans make to claim Staal is better than Richards.

Carter's even strength points per minute was roughly double Richards' if I recall correctly.

Am I surprised a shallow, misguided argument came from you as well?

Not really. You did recently claim that Claude Giroux's lack of even strength offense made him a defensive liability.

As for my argument that Giroux is better than Staal offensively:

Originally Posted by Chris Shafer View Post
I don't necessarily believe PPG tells the entire story though.

How about offense production per minute of ice time?

Jordan Staal:
Even Strength = 0.02855
Power Play = 0.04281

Claude Giroux:
Even Strength = 0.03218
Power Play = 0.09188

These are numbers based on TOI for even strength and power play while factoring in production across each season and postseason played for each player.
It's really not all that close offensively. Granted, I did say that Staal was better than Giroux defensively, which he is.

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