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05-06-2005, 04:16 AM
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But, many people don't want to look past the numbers and see the truth of what they represent
Many of us are looking past the numbers and seeing that Francis was a far above average defensive forward, even winning a Selke, was a faceoff expert, a classy guy that keeps things together, these things don't show up on his stat sheet (which is impressive enough in the opinion of most of us). There are a lot of players with more impressive stats that can't claim these strengths.

And besides, I really do value longetivity, as long as you're not just ''hanging around'', and he was top-line center for as long as he's played. Up until last year I guess. And that's a HELL of a long time. In that regard, he's truly elite. You're useless if you can't contribute, and so many superstar scorers with the ''HOF seasons'' you covet quickly become useless.

Francis making the hall because of his inflated career numbers isn't the same as Turgeon making the hall because of his inflated career numbers.

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