DiPietro Discussion Thread Part I
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10-25-2010, 10:11 AM
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I find it funny that we have a thread dedicated specifically to criticism of one player. Let's assume that it's meant as "constructive criticism" about goaltending in general, otherwise it's just a forum to bash the goalie. If that's the case, we should have one for Wang and Snow and Gordon, to start.
Do contracts dictate who plays? Yes. Unless you're NJ who can afford to pay $100 million dollars for a healthy player to watch them play, the contract does matter. The contract is a reflection of the team's commitment to the player, right or wrong. They chose DiPietro as their goalie of the future and the negotiated term was for 15 years. That's a strategic decision made by the current owner and they have every right to give the player a chance to regain his form.
I agree that Roloson is a better goalie right now, not even close. If the team were to believe that they could address their goaltending one year at a time, given what was available on the UFA market then I'd be just as concerned, strategically, as giving a 15 year contract to a goalie. They are both flawed strategies.
Dealing with the right now: You have to play BOTH goalies with a skew on DiPietro. The team believes, and I agree, that a DiPietro at 100% is far better than Roloson at 100%, not just for this season, but for the next five seasons.
Are you "throwing away games" by playing DiPietro ahead of Roloson? Easy to say so after a loss. Would Roloson have played as well as he did in Toronto? Nice to have hindsight.
It's not as though DiPietro is playing like a young Yann Danis out there. He's playing well, he's just not playing fantastic, which is understandable. He looks great at times and he looks like he's missed two years at other times. He's (incredibly) moving very well in goal, he seems very active and agile in the crease, ala Tim Thomas, and that's very encouraging.
I wonder how this board would respond if he'd stopped that Dvorak shot (which he almost got) and had Tavares added a 4th goal to win the game (that's certainly plausible given the touch around the net he has - of course Parenteau would have gotten an assist).
Let's give DiPietro time.
To me, it's no different that giving a "chance" to players like Schremp, Grabner, Niederreiter, Parenteau, Moulson, except you actual OWE IT to yourself (as the owner, as the franchise) in terms of DiPietro (given his TALENT and his contract).
If anyone deserves a pass it's DiPietro
Could not disagree more.
If anyone should have to prove himself and earn his position, it is DP. If it were not for his contract, he'd be fighting his way back in the AHL. That is the truth. It's not DP hate, it's the way it is (or at least my strong opinion).
My own personal opinion is that DiPietro has been for the most part, largely over rated. He has had his moments to be sure where he has had very good runs (so have many other mediocre goalies) but his downfall is the way he plays where that part of me thinks "oh my god just stay in the net......nooooooooooo don't do that!!!!!". You can count on at least least one or two boneheaded decisions OUT of his net every game (and I'm being very generous here). If he were a defenseman, people here would be calling for his head.
He would be a far more effective goalie if he adjusted his game to let it come to him rather than being aggressive in net. When he is at his best, he lets the puck come to him and does not overplay it and absorb shots and let's the D do their jobs. I think everyone can agree on that.
The way this team plays (aggressive forecheck...quick collapse in defensive zone) we are far better off with a conservative approach in net that compliments the style of the aggressive nature of the rest of the team. That is why Rolie fits better and the team plays better with him in net.
I would hate to play defense with DP in net. Too much confusion and hesitation because no one never knows what "play" DP is going to want to make. He hurts this team by his poor positioning OUT of the net far more than his play between the pipes. He causes players to have to change their own game and over compensate and commit because of how this is how DP WANTS to play. He screws them up.
Watch the defensemen on opposing teams as soon as you can see him handling the puck behind the net, they go right to the boards as soon as he starts "thinking" about what he wants to do. Then the opposing D stop it almost every time. If DP does not send it around the boards, he will attempt to send right up the middle of the ice.
It's not even the turn overs he causes but because of the way he plays - and has always played - he causes other players to make mistakes because of his consistently unpredictable decision making.
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