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10-05-2003, 05:46 PM
Burke's Evil Spirit
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Eh, there are odd comments here and there that I disagree with...let's begin...

Minnesota has poor group of prospects, and their fan support will dwindle
Wrong and wronger. Between Bouchard, Gaborik, Koivu, Foy, Wanvig, Veilleux, Schultz, Burns, O'Sullivan and Dupuis, the Wild have compiled a group of young players who put the Oilers to shame. "23rd in prospect development"? That's meaningless. As for fan support - hell, every high school hockey championship game there sells out (and they're played at the XCel Energy Center)...geez, Minnesota as a state is crazy about hockey.

Rutherford is a good GM.
Yeah, that's why he's still paying Sandiz Ozolinsh $1.5 million, or paying Irbe millions to start for the Lowell Rock Monsters, or signing UFAs like he's some kind of Cup contender...go further back, and you have him grabbing Glen Wesley for three first rounders (including McLaren and Samsonov) and the ludicrous Sergei Fedorov offer sheet. No, he's one of the worst GMs out there.

Originally Posted by theoil
I know Mizral that it must be exasperating to have had to watch the Canucks all these years and that it must be exciting to finally have a half decent team to watch that is not a total embarrassment but still . . . there is such a thing as manners as well as not making a fool of yourself in public.

There are GM's (and coaches) who are pretty good at taking a bad team and making them mediocre (Sutters) or mediocre teams and making them good (Quinn) but there are very few GM's who can take a good team and make them exceptional. Since you have never had the latter experience I guess it is understandable that you don't understand the standards by which Oiler fans rate their team's personnel.

The answer to all your points is as simple as I am sure it is annoying. Because you have never watched a championship team being assembled you don't appear to have any idea about how it should be done.

I wouldn't be so blunt but your lack of manners seems to imply that subtlety is not your strong suit. Lowe has made several moves that I'm sure he would like to have back but at the end of the day your analysis of what makes a good GM seems to be about as shallow as a puddle down Lethbridge way come August.

If you wish to offer your insights where they might be more appreciated I can only suggest that a lot of Toronto fans seem to share your view of what counts as hockey smarts. They also seem to think they are close to winning a Stanley Cup.
You're an idiot. Oilers fans know how to rate GMs because Sather won some Cups in the '80s? Get a clue, and stop trolling.

Moving on...Kevin Lowe...well, he's not bad, but he's one of the most overrated GMs in hockey.

The positives? Well, there's the York-for-Poti deal, the Guerin-for-Carter-and-Hemsky deal (which is the real feather in his cap, IMO...), his further unwillingness to give Mike Comrie big money, and drafting pretty well (at least, I think so - a lot of heart & soul guys coming up and I do think Mikhnov will make an impact at the NHL level)...and that's about it.

Argue small-market team all you want, the reality is that he has not made good small market moves - and this is something every Canucks fan knows well. Why does he trade Niinimaa's $2.9 million salary but keep Jason Smith at $2.3 million? Radek Dvorak will make $800 000 less than Anson Carter next that really worth it? Especially considering that he's willing to pay career third-liner Ethan Moreau $1.5 million? He moves to get Isbister's $1.6 million which time he is promptly stuck on the fourth line. Why not move Smith and Moreau, get less return, but keep Carter and Niinimaa? Especially when you have some physical d-men in the organization? Dopita was a boneheaded move, he overpaid Cleary then bought him out...lowetide refers to his moves as aggressive and decisive...those are only positive qualities if you make good decisions in the first place! He doesn't! He has consistently overpaid depth players at the expense of moving top-line talent. He puts an exciting product on the ice, yes, but I have serious questions regarding his long-term vision of the club and how he plans to attain that.

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