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Bill Carson, C



- 5'8", 158 lbs
- Stanley Cup (1929)
- Top-20 in Goals 3 times (6th, 10th, 17th)
- Top-20 in Assists 3 times (8th, 17th, 18th)
- Top-20 in Points 3 times (8th, 10th, 13th)
- His 2 goals and 2 points in 5 playoff games in 1929 may not appear impressive, but the team scored just 9 goals and 12 points in the whole playoffs. Carson was tied for the lead in both goals and points and one of those included the cup winner, so he was very key. Overall, it was good for a 3-way tie for 3rd in playoff goals, and an 8-way tie for 4th in playoff points.

Great senior league player too:

- Allan Cup (1921)
- Allan Cup Finalist (1920)
- 1st All-Star Team (1921)
- 2nd All-Star Team (1920, 1922, 1923)
- 2nd in scoring in SOHA in 1921, tied with Carson Cooper
- 4th in SOHA scoring in 1922, behind only Burch, Cooper, and Watson
- 5th in SOHA scoring in 1923, behind Watson and Cooper, and ahead of Hap Day, who was a forward at this time
- 1st in SOHA scoring in 1925, with a good 20% lead on everyone else, though by this time the league was lacking top-end talent. Normie Himes was there this year. Carson more than doubled his per-game production.
- 3rd in SOHA scoring in 1926, again, there were no big names left except Normie Himes, whom Carson outpointed by 37% per game.
- In 70 SOHA games, scored 80 goals and 108 points from 1919-1926, plus 25 goals and 33 points in 16 playoff and Allan Cup games.

From my analysis of Moose Watson from the MLD2010 Finals:

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Originally Posted by seventieslord
Bill Carson

Carson was a very good NHL player for a very short time. In 4 seasons, three of them very low-scoring, he had 78 points in 159 games. He was top-10 in goals twice and then top-10 in assists another year. He had 1.69 and 2.06 PPG in 70 and 16 SOHA games. Conclusion: Watson scored at 108% and 84% of Cooper's rate in the SOHA.
In other words, Watson, a HHOFer who I admit is a top-line MLD player and possibly an ATD bottom-6 guy, scored at about the same rate as Carson, although over a longer period, but Carson proved himself in three NHL seasons, while Watson did not.

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Originally Posted by Hockey's Historic Highlights
He took a different route to the top, transferring from the OHA Stratford Indians, where he had been the loop's top scorer. A dentist by trade, he aligned himself with the U of T's team for four seasons. It was there that he first earned his reputation as one of the best centers in the business. Early in his stint with the St. Pats, a game report showered him with accolades: "He was wonderful both going and coming - most fans will tell you that he stood out head and shoulders above every other player on the ice. He was a reincarnated Houdini around the Star Spangled defense, and he had the goalie doing so many twists and turns, it took "Bone-setter" Bannister half an hour to get his wishbone and backbone back together." No wonder, then, when a poll was taken in 1927 of spectator favourites in the ten NHL cities, he was chosen as the Toronto representative. It is onw of those big league mysteries that, after his second (and improved) year with Toronto, he was sold to Boston for cash. He was the Bruins' hero in their 1929 Stanley Cup triumph over the Rangers... he retired to pursue his chosen occupation... in the fall of 1933, he donned the livery of the New Haven Eagles. His reputation preceded him and he was the unanimous choice of his teammates to wear the "C" on his shirt.
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Originally Posted by loh.net
Although Carson was a fine hockey player, his inclination was toward education more than it was to the NHL. He attended the University of Toronto and played on the Varsity team, winning the Allan Cup in 1921 and staying in OHA senior hockey while finishing his studies.
Carson stayed in the game for a few years, playing in Grimsby and Stratford and earning the admiration of the St. Pats, precursor to the Maple Leafs. He joined the St. Pats and NHL full-time in 1926-27, the year the team was sold to Conn Smythe and the name change made.

Carson had impressive years of 16 and 20 goals with Toronto, but midway through 1928-29 he was sold to Boston and helped the Bruins win their first Stanley Cup just a few weeks later.

Carson played one more season with the Bruins, then more or less retired to go into dentistry, the result of his studies at the U of T.
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Originally Posted by Bobby Orr Hall of Fame
He went on to play with the Peach Kings in Grimsby for one year and then with the Stratford Indians for two more years. He had an impressive showing in 1924-25 netting 29 goals and 8 assists in 20 games.

Meanwhile, the Toronto St Pats noticed Carson's performance and boasted his signing with the team in 1926. The manager and coach Mike Rodden wanted everyone to know that he was bringing in new blood, placing much hope and trust in Carson. His trust was well founded when the Pats soon became the Maple Leafs in 1927 and Carson's stellar performance made him a fan favourite. Carson would also go down in the history books as a charter member of the new Toronto Maple Leafs. It is thought that Bill Carson may have scored the first Maple Leaf goal!

It was in his third season with Toronto, on February 4, 1928, the leafs met the Detroit Cougars in a very physical game. Carson was badly hurt when on the receiving end of a hard body-check sending him to the ice. He sustained a severe concussion and a fractured skull. Although he recovered and returned to the lineup, he was not the same player. Toronto traded him to Boston on January 25, 1929.

The Bruins' investment paid off when Carson scored the winning goal in the Bruins' first Stanley Cup at 18:02 of the third period making the score 2 - 1 against the New York Rangers at Madison Square Garden in 1929. The series was 2 - 0.
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Originally Posted by carsonhousebb.com
William, or Bill, was born in 1900 in Bracebridge and, according to our research at the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto, he seems to have been the most renowned of the three brothers. In Wing's, History of Parry Sound, it states that, "[i]n 1921, Bill Carson was considered the best junior hockey player in Ontario."

In the early 1920s, Bill went to the University of Toronto to study dentistry. While at the U of T he excelled on the varsity hockey team. In 1926, he joined the NHL's Toronto St. Pats and in 1927, he was a charter member of the new Toronto Maple Leafs. It is actually even rumoured that he scored the first Maple Leaf goal!

In 1928, Bill's contract was sold to the Boston Bruins and he scored the winning goal in the Bruins' first Stanley Cup.

Unfortunately, his career seems to have been cut short by an arm injury hereceived while with the St. Pats. Although he only played in the NHL for four years, he also spent some time in the American Hockey League with the New Haven Eagles and, in later years, did some scouting as well.

Generally speaking, little is known of Bill's hockey career. We find it strange that in a "hockey town" like ours, a man who was classed among hockey greats like Howie Morenz, Busher Jackson, Ace Bailey, Hap Day and Eddie Shore is virtually unrecognized. During his short career Bill Carson was one of the best and highest paid players in the NHL.

After his career in hockey, Bill returned to practice dentistry, first in Aurora and eventually in Parry Sound. Bill Carson, nicknamed "Doc", died in Parry Sound in May of 1967.
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Originally Posted by Border Cities Star, February 9, 1926
the Indians played the entire overtime with one man short, Bill Carson having been banished for the remainder of the game for hitting jackhammering, the referee. The fracas occurred just before the final bell rang for the full-time. Burke had just been banished and when the puck was faced off, Arnott, at center, got a crack on the ankle. Bill Carson went to assist him up and Cameron followed him, apparently ragging bill. Carson turned and hit Cameron on the job, the referee landing on his back on the ice. For a few minutes a general mixup seemed imminent, but it quieted down as speedily as it came up. Carson's penalty cost the locals the game, as during the first 10 min. of overtime the Indians held off the Presto nights.… At that, Carson's action was not without provocation. Cameron at no time was master of the game and his decisions were Reardon many instances. He and Bill Carson clashed earlier in the game when he banished bill for questioning a decision.… Just previous to Carson hitting him, Bill was over helping Arnott to his feet. Cameron followed over and the scene apparently to remonstrate to the player, then Bill hit him.… Bill Carson uncorked one of his sensational rushes and caught the defense and goalie cold
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Originally Posted by Montréal Gazette, April 17, 1926
Bill Carson took the leap today, on the eve of the National Hockey League meeting at Montréal the great Stratford center player attached a signature to a St. Patrick's contract calling for the largest salary ever paid a player in the history of the sport. The St. Patrick's refused to divulge the amount paid to the brilliant goal getter, but they maintained that it had set a new record.… Carson broke into the OHA Junior series in 1918 when his team, Woodstock, finished as runners-up for the title… In 1920 Carson was the outstanding star on the University of Toronto team which captured the intercollegiate union honors and played against the Falcons, Olympic winners, in the Allan cup series.… Carson captained the 1921 University of Toronto senior team, which won the Allan cup. This was the greatest collection that ever wore the famous blue-and-white colors. During the next two seasons Carson played center for the U of T team winning the intercollegiate union championship both seasons. In the following year he played for the Grimsby intermediates, although selected to make the trip to the Olympics with the granites. Last year Carson played for the Stratford OHA seniors group finalists, and this year he was with Stratford again. He led the OHA goal getters in the last two seasons. When he signed today for the new St. Pats manager Mike Rodden, the longest chase in the history of the sport came to a close. St. Patrick's Scouts have been on Carson's trail for several seasons and they have just about concluded that Carson would never make the jump. Today, however, Rodden persuaded him to join the Irishman. St. Pats are on their way in their efforts to giving Toronto a winning team.… Bill Carson was one of the players keenly sought by the Montréal maroons last season. His jump to the Irish team of the NHL should greatly strengthen it scoring punch, and, incidentally, it marks an early start by the clubs and bolstering up weak positions before next season.
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Originally Posted by Ottawa Citizen, December 21, 1926
Bill Carson was the pivot to the Irish attack, and he exhibited a style seldom surpassed in the arena. He drove in three of the St. Patrick's goals, while day was responsible for two.
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Originally Posted by Ottawa Citizen, January 4, 1927
Bill Carson and Irvin Bailey, the two amateur stars secured from OHA ranks by Toronto St. Pats this season, have proven outstanding performers on the Irish front rank. Carson is one of the fastest men in the league and a flashy puck carrier…
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Originally Posted by Ottawa Citizen, January 6, 1927
Dr. Bill Carson, playing left-wing for the St. Pats appears to be one of the outstanding stars of the NHL and it would not be surprising to find him leading the goal getters in the eastern section at the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by The Montréal Gazette, March 21, 1928
Bill Carson was two thirds of the Toronto attack. He had been threatening throughout the period. Once he was stopped when he had gotten by the defense, but the doctor contrived to get in again and this time he scored. He pushed the puck between the points, salvaged it inside the defense, pulled the goalie out of the net and scored without opposition.
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Originally Posted by The Montréal Gazette, November 19, 1928
Dr. Bill Carson, leafs center ace, stood out as an attacking force for the leafs and counted to of his teams for tallies.… Carson's first tally was distinctly a lone effort. Starting from his own defense the leafs center stick handled his way down the ice, drew Burke aside, slipped past Mantha, and drove a bullet like shot that Hainsworth had little chance to save.
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Originally Posted by Ottawa Citizen, November 20, 1928
the leafs main forward line, Dr. Bill Carson, Irving Bailey, and ***** ***, are rated one of the speediest lines in hockey…


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