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Originally Posted by seventieslord View Post
The NHA was just the NHL under a different name (really, the right thing to do after the past 93 years would be to accept it and make the NHA stats part of the official record) so it's a disservice to both players to exclude their NHA seasons.

Why would it not be a big deal that Taylor tore up the PCHA? There were a ton of great players there who got into the HHOF. The league proved on many occasions it could compete with the NHA/NHL (it only wrestled two cups away but the W/L record was much closer than the series W/L record indicates, and believe it or not, they actually outscored the NHA/NHL in total)

With all that said, it wouldn't be blatantly incorrect to claim it was a lesser league; it might have been. But the degree to which Taylor outscored the rest of the league is downright cartoonish:

PCHA Scoring Leaders:

Name GP G A Pts PIM GPG APG PPG Best 5 G Best-5 A Best-5 Pts
Cyclone Taylor 130 159 104 263 65 1.22 0.80 2.02 1, 1, 1, 2, 2 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 1, 1, 1, 1, 1
Tommy Dunderdale 241 194 60 254 494 0.80 0.25 1.05 1, 1, 1, 3, 6 3, 4, 5, 6, 6 1, 1, 3, 3, 5
Smokey Harris 252 156 90 246 416 0.62 0.36 0.98 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 1, 1, 2, 2, 4 1, 2, 3, 4, 7
Mickey MacKay 192 159 82 241 193 0.83 0.43 1.26 1, 1, 2, 5, 6 1, 2, 2, 2, 4 2, 2, 2, 3, 5
Bernie Morris 167 155 76 231 137 0.93 0.46 1.38 1, 2, 2, 2, 4 1, 2, 2, 2, 3 1, 2, 2, 2, 4
Frank Foyston 202 174 53 227 133 0.86 0.26 1.12 1, 1, 2, 3, 4 5, 5, 7, 8, 11 2, 3, 3, 4, 4
Eddie Oatman 196 129 81 210 278 0.66 0.41 1.07 3, 3, 4, 5, 6 1, 3, 4, 4, 5 3, 3, 4, 4, 6
Jack Walker 186 82 58 140 31 0.44 0.31 0.75 4, 7, 9, 9, 11 3, 4, 4, 4, 6 4, 8, 9, 9, 10
Frank Fredrickson 105 93 46 139 83 0.89 0.44 1.32 1, 3, 4, 4, DNP 1, 2, 2, 3, DNP 1, 2, 2, 3, DNP

Before heading west and becoming a rover, Taylor was also the best defenseman in the East. Stats don't necessarily prove this as defensemen scored very little, but contemporary reports confirm that he was both dazzling and valuable.
I was playing devil's advocate. I can see better why he is considered so great. I didn't realize we were talking about a defenseman here. These are the numbers I got, which I added up from totals from the PCHA, NHA, NHL, WCHL, WHL, and CAHL.

Name GP G A PTS PPG PIM
Malone 144 187 18 205 1.424 33
Lalonde 190 199 47 246 1.295 250
Taylor 59 66 1 67 1.136 0

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