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11-27-2010, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WilliamRanford View Post
On the flip side, here's career losing percentage top 25:

# Player Losing %
1 Kenneth Dryden 14.4%
2 Gerry Cheevers 24.4%
3 Manny Legace 27.1%
4 Michel Larocque 28.5%
5 Chris Osgood 29.2%
6 Bill Durnan 29.2%
7 Andy Moog 29.3%
8 Jacques Plante 29.4%
9 Bob Froese 29.8%
10 Niklas Backstrom 29.8%
11 Dominik Hasek 30.3%
12 Marty Turco 30.4%
13 Martin Brodeur 30.6%
14 Patrick Roy 30.6%

15 Vesa Toskala 30.8%
16 George Hainsworth 31.2%
17 Wayne Stephenson 31.4%
18 Evgeni Nabokov 31.6%
19 Pete Peeters 31.7%
20 Ryan Miller 31.7%
21 Rejean Lemelin 32.0%
22 Richard Wamsley 32.2%
23 Bernie Parent 32.6%
24 Cristobal Huet 33.1%

Again, Dryden with an other wordly mark here -- he lost less than 3 out of every 20 games played. Wow!
Originally Posted by Goalie Guru View Post
With all do respect here is where the problem lays and why the 'star' goalies are over rated. I'll try and explain.

When a backup does well or a rookie or a guy in the league for short periods of time it's because he was "playing on a powerhouse team". When Brodeur, Dryden, and Sawchuck do it, it's because they were great goalies.

If Ross Brooks played for this same Boston team when he was 21 years old and not 36, or young like Brodeur, Dryden and Sawchuck, when they played for powerhouses, then he would "have been a gem". Timing and reputation is everything as a goalie.

"If he had been that good", he was that good! You don't get that lucky over 54 starts in the NHL. You have totally judged him because he played on crappy teams and you automatically assumed he couldn't have been any good. Tim Thomas!

"I'd have to credit his record to playing on the Orr/Esposito Bruins", and so why can't we do that with Dryden, Brodeur and Parent?

See the double standards here. This is usually in the debates I have with people that the 'consitancy' word starts to fly around the room.
Thes egoalies were great Guru because they did it for many years. Well, the teams were great for many years.
Goalie Guru.

please try to explain how Hasek lose% is lower than Brodeur and Roy?

because that really blows my mind! and I guess you mean it should not?

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