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12-06-2010, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by superroyain10 View Post

There is no question that Bourque had tougher competition. Your argument that Lidstrom's peers are being underrated because they play in an era with Lidstrom is silly. That would mean that Sakic, Yzerman, etc. are/were being terribly underrated. Lidstrom's peers are not as highly valued as Bourque's or Orr's simply because those of us who have seen them play, know that the defensive crop was weaker during Lidstrom's time. We know that Coffey, Stevens, MacInnis, Chelios etc. are superior to Niedermayer, Pronger, and Chara....

It isn't awards/domination against his peers that makes me think Bourque is superior to Lidstrom. It is having watched them play for most of their careers...
True, but I think the difference is overstated due to the weird careers of Niedermayer and Pronger. Lidstrom wasn't competing with Scott Niedermayer's career, he was competing with his seasons. And Niedermayer from 03-04 to 06-07 was just as dominant as any defenseman Bourque faced. Nieds wasn't nearly as good until he hit the age of 30, but that doesn't mean his 3 dominant seasons (3 Norrises in a row in an all-Canadian league...) were any less dominant. Likewise, Pronger in 2000 had a regular season good as any of Bourque's competition, he just couldn't repeat it.

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