Possible trade with St Louis?
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12-09-2010, 03:17 PM
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Undoubtedly we need both - the difference is our pipeline seems to be tailored more towards the mobility within the development of our youth in the years upcoming, while the defensive specialists seem to be a little less. I think that for the sake of this year we need to find another PMD because Braun will need more time in the minors and Demers should have less minutes in favor of somebody more established, but at the end of the season: we need to pick up someone who can play defense. The more we put on the shoulders of Murray and Vlasic (ie - Blake is gone), the less sure I feel about our ability to solidify the game in our own end.
And bottom line is anyone who can do both, is probably going to cost us a pick or some sort of asset. How long before we start looking at McGinn, Seto or Mitchell in a package for this type of player... and who would it be? For the record, I am against trading Seto with his value so low, his potential so high, and his inconsistency which for all intents and purposes could be fixed with a couple more years in the system. So far, I don't know what more McGinn and Mitchell will provide us aside from their speed.
I disagree on the pipeline. For defensive dmen, they have Petrecki, Joslin, Moore and Doherty. Joslin should have been a two-way but they are playing him as a defensive dman. On the PMD side, Demers, Braun and Schaus. The problem is that they started the year with only 2 PMDs, Demers and Boyle. Vlasic should not be considered a PMD for the last 2-1/2 years or so, and it has been getting worse, not better.
As stated before, it is OK if all of the top 4 are PMDs. It is not OK to pair defensive dmen. It is OK to pair PMDs. Top teams want all of the top 4 as PMDs.
For definitions sake:
PMD - puck moving dman - should get a minimum of 25 points over 80 games
Two-way dman - combines the 25/80 with the ability to be top 4 in qualcomp on the team over 80 games, top 4 TOI
Defensive dman - should be top 4 in qualcomp over 80 games, scores less than 20 points, probably 15 or less.
Top 4 - 20min/game TOI
Defensive stopper - top 2 in qualcomp on the team
On PP dmen, first unit should be well over 30 pts/year each with the #1 guy getting north of 40. Second unit should be close to 30 pts/year.
BTW, on Vlasic, he has been getting enough PP time that he should have points by that issue alone. The 0 points is really glaring. This was an issue last year as well. The PP efficiency dropped dramatically with Vlasic on the ice.
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