Flyers tried to move JVR-no takers?
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12-20-2010, 03:08 PM
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Why not wait and see? The point is, there is a very clear case that states: You will not know whether he will be a good power forward until 5 years into his career. It has been the case with hundreds of players. There is literally NO REASON to think JVR will be a bust at this point in his career nor can I make a case that he is a lock to be a star! He is 21, he is 6'3, he has good hands, he has an outstanding junior career. He is an RFA.....if he doesn't produce, he doesn't get paid big money. So we get him on a cheap contract next time out. If he doesn't produce, then you have a busted draft pick - it happens.
However - giving up on a pick before he is SUPPOSED to produce makes no sense. Lets say we go your route and trade him for a pick. At what point will we give up on that pick and trade him for another pick? Cause if we trade JVR for a pick, we have to expect it will be 3-5 years before he is making an impact (IE. Giroux). Why not wait 1-2 years to see if the draft pick from 2 years ago fulfills his draft expectation instead of starting over again? I just don't get the logic.
I don't believe the original, alleged rumour that Homer even shopped JVR around. You'd think that one of the Philly writers might've mentioned it, or even someone on HockeyBuzz?
I agree, it makes no sense to even think about trading JVR.
He's just a big skinny kid, his diligent summer in the weight room notwithstanding. Some patience is required.
He's big and fast. I don't think he ever needs to be a LeClair-style power forward. He's a skill player with great reach. Great hands, great vision and creativity, great hockey sense. He's got a very good wrist shot too - so much so that he will be able to score from a distance the way Carter can.
As he's gotten heavier, his hitting has become more effective and he isn't afraid to go to the net (nor was he last year even after a couple concussions). Lavy even used him a bit on the PK earlier in the year, which shows he is playing some D too.
I think JVR is talented enought to score 35 goals in the NHL, but the problem is that he's playing on a really deep team, so he doesn't get any PP time or big ice time. He might not get there for a few years.
People need to have patience.
Ten years from now, picking him after Kane will still look like a good call.
Maybe Linus Omark (97) or PK Subban (43) were better options, but you can only hire good scouts and then take their research into account.
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