Zetterberg for Comrie proposal.
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10-08-2003, 09:18 AM
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It certainly is nice of you to break out the stats on the arguement.... but I can't say it has added much value in this case.
Your argument seems to be that Zetterberg didn't get as much ice time (or pp time) as Comrie. However in showing the average ice time per game, without showing NUMBER OF GAMES PLAYED, you show nothing.
In reality, Zetterberg played in 79 games last year, so taking his average time/game multiplied by # of games is:
Ice time: 79x16.48 = 1302 minutes (seconds converted to decimals)
PP time: 2.0667x79 = 163 minutes
Comrie on the other hand, played in only 69 games (some with a cast):
Ice time: 69x17.90 = 1235 minutes
PP time: 4.42x69 = 305 minutes
So, while Comrie had more PP time, he scored more too. In fact, their pro-rated production on the PP is nearly equal. Zetterberg slightly higher, but he also spent those minutes on a PP that was among the leagues best, Comrie toiled on one of the leagues worst PPs, so the fact that he was scoring at nearly the same rate should surprise you.
But more importantly, Comrie scored as many even strength points as Zetterberg (34 vs 34) despite playing in significantly less TOTAL playing time. Bottom line: his production rate was higher, despite playing against the other team's best checkers (as one of Edmonton's few offensive threats).
So Comrie is the better scorer... there should be little doubt of that, even if you want to ignore how many games they each played, or spin minutes per game as if you are comparing apples to apples.
Next... for the argument that Comrie is poor defensively, or that Zetterberg was only a rookie. There may be some merit to Comrie being poor defensively LAST year, but take a look at his first full year. He lead the team in +/-, and his offensive output was even higher. Chalk up this year to his broken thumb, or to the sophmore jinx, or whatever, but don't forget that this could still set Zetterberg back. There have also been some very interesting breakdowns of Comrie's stats pre and post (more like during) injury. The discrepancy was stark.
If you want to compare Zetterberg to Comrie, why not compare their rookie years? Such a comparison would further the gap btwn the two in Comrie's favour.
Anyway, I am not at all trying to slam Zetterberg, I just don't think that your post should get away with reporting stats without taking the broader context. Any you definitely shouldn't get away with posting comparison's based on minutes/game without even factoring in how many games each player played.
Post of the year right there
Like I have said in a previous post, Comrie's defensive shortcomings have to do with his average skating ability, not a lack of hockey knowledge. Yes, Comrie is an AVERAGE skater. Quite often you will notice that he is just one step behind the man he is inteding to cover. Once he learns how to play positionally smart, his defence will improve immensely.
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