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#43: Flyers @ Bruins -Thursday, Jan. 13, 2011
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01-14-2011, 11:32 AM
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He is a slightly above average defenseman who excels in the offensive end and for all of his mistakes he still makes far fewer than Coburn the mouth-breather.
You can rant about Carle's cap hit if you want (and I would argue that it isn't MUCH higher than it should be), but he makes many more positive than negative plays (the negativity of this board and the ever present vitriol for Carle especially gives you all **** colored glasses).
I will say; however, it is quite obvious that, much like Coburn, he needs a player who is better defensively than himself to make up for the times when he has "brain farts" and this season Pronger has been a shell of himself and hasn't provided that safety blanket.
Carle turns the puck over much more than Coburn. Coburn had 1 brutal giveaway yesterday, Carle had at least 3. Coburn's problems are penalties and consistent positioning. Carle's problems are knowing which players are on his team, and which aren't. When Coburn panics, he takes a penalty. When Carle panics he passes it to the other team.
They both have their flaws, but Carle is worse with turnovers than Coburn. We already have 2 of the best D men in the league in Timonen and Pronger, in my opinion Carle's offense isn't worth his **** ups. I Thank him for getting us into OT against the rags last year, but I trade him this off season. His points also give him more value to an outside team who doesn't realize that he can't be trusted.
Carle makes 1 great play per game, balanced with 3 or 4 horrible plays. Yesterday's game was a prime example of that. Walker was awful, Carle was bad, Coburn had 1 horrible turnover but was + 3 and joined the rush nicely. Timonen had a bad giveaway but he was fine otherwise, OD with one bad play, but he got a goal to redeem. Mez also had 1 really bad turnover. One of the worst games by our D as a whole, but it was still Carle who stood out at -3 (Walker, Mez, OD -1 Coburn Timo +3) and he also created no offense.
His offensive production is also extremely streaky making him even more frustrating. He had 8 points in his first 5 games last season, and then it took him 25 games to get another 8 points(still a 40 point pace, which he then didn't hit).
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