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#43: Flyers @ Bruins -Thursday, Jan. 13, 2011
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01-15-2011, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
Giroux tha Damaja
C'mon Jester. Take a look around the league and see what everyone else's #3 and #4 guys look like . . .
between Coburn, Carle and Mezsaros we have two guys playing like average #2's a good amount of the time.
And since when is the standard for being a good #3 being able to carry the second pairing on your own? It's a pairing...as in two players contributing. The standard for being a good #3 should not be that you're able to carry around a ****** #4 on your back and still do well. That's what #1 defensemen do.
Because they're playing with *ing all-world D doing the heavy lifting.
Carle is putting up points, but if you put him on a roster where he really needed to be a "force" for your D, you going to have much confidence in him going out there and playing those hard minutes?
Coburn has been a *ing disaster away from Timonen defensively, and is a complete non-entity offensively (no. 2s that have ZERO offensive game, are defensive studs... do you really think Coburn is a defensive stud?).
If Meszaros was what you are saying he is, he wouldn't be on our roster as TB would have kept him.
What you are witnessing is the influence top-end D like Timonen and Pronger can have down the roster (as well as overall depth). Same thing you see with bullpens in baseball when you have a top flight closer locking it down... all the other relievers are that much better.
And, yes, look around the league... you'll find a lot of D that are far more reliable than Carle and Coburn. Meszaros has been very strong for us, but, as discussed, much of that has come against weaker competition... and, as noted, he struggled when in a top pairing role and that's why he's here in the first place.
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