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Originally Posted by dulzhok
You're basically saying you can't compare our situation to anybody's, but then trying to compare.
Philly took Carter and Richards in the same year. We also had a plenty of assets to move up, with 7 picks in the 2nd & 3rd round. That's also back when Arkhipov, Legwand, Erat had value.
Others have done better. Others have done worse. I agree with you, he's made some "decent" picks.
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Me? how did I say you can't compare? I think you can compare it. But I think that saying DET wins by picking up studs late (which are a crapshoot, I don't care what anyone says - hell for that matter DET passed up Hornqvist) is a fallacy. Once you get out of the first round, you're really just looking at a bunch of 18 year old kids with talent and a capacity for playing a game. Nothing more, really. I fully believe it's what you do with them after you draft them that makes the most difference. I believe that not only is Poile talented at seeing defensive ability, but Trotz and the coaching staff, including MIL, are very, very good at utilizing that talent and molding these guys into very good players.
Seeing your post, Dulzhok, no I don't think that Poile was any more of a genius than any other GM for Rinne and Hornqvist. I think it's a complete crapshoot.
And yes, before it's mentioned and harped on, I do not believe Trotz is great at developing offensive talent. Part of that is not being blessed with Rick Nash type of picks, but the other part of that is that he understands that the system his team employs, requires the forwards to be defensive responsible. You want proof of that, look at the last 2 game-losing goals. Both were situations where the forwards lost their men, and we lose another 1-goal game. Like it, hate it, complain about it however you want, but our forwards must play defense, or we will get creamed. And yes, there are many, many times I wish he would just give our forwards the green light to go all out, but realistically that would be hockey suicide.