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03-11-2011, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
Nothing disingenuous about it... Coburn has been a disaster away from Timonen here. Carle certainly plays well enough with Pronger, but he's the worst defensive D on this team (by a significant margin this year).
If getting outmatched defensively is the primary variable in playing on the third pairing, then Carle would be there.
Not only does Coburn almost always play with Timonen, but that's again very disingenuous (and untrue, since Coburn played well on third pairing and with Hatcher). Coburn is playing well with Timonen because Coburn is playing well. He's using his size, reach and skating to wear down top lines. He has found himself as a smooth skating defensive D. It's also unfair to take into account older seasons when evaluating Coburn but not Meszaros.
Carle has also been playing very well even strength this season, despite people
ing. There's a reason he's leading the Flyers in +/- and has the third most even strength points in the league for defensemen. He's been moving the puck well and making smart decisions. I've been really critical of Carle in the past, but he's been fine.
In all honesty, I'd like the Flyers to keep all 5 of their main D, and I think they well. I just think it's really stupid to claim that Coburn and Carle are the players on the Flyers most likely to be traded "by far".
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Even if I entirely agreed with your points, do you REALLY believe Coburn and Carle aren't getting those minutes because their partners happen to be Kimmo Timonen and Chris MF'ing Pronger?
Kimmo and Pronger dictate their minutes, Coburn and Carle are along for the ride.
Coburn and Carle are playing on the top two pairings (matched against top units) because they are playing really good hockey. If Laviolette feels Meszaros plays better than them even strength, the Mes would be getting those assignments.
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