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03-11-2011, 08:58 PM
William H Bonney
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Originally Posted by Tonellisghost View Post
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My position though remains solid in that you simply can't compare the two based on how the fact that they are entirely different players who are given entirely different assignments and amounts of ice time and expectations.

I would love it if Westgarth had Cliffords skills but he doesn't. Westgarth is given two minutes a night and a limited role which he plays pretty well for his first year at the NHL level. Clifford is expected to develop into a top 6 forward and I think he will in a year or two.

Its comparing Westgarth with any other player that is incorrect in my opinion as he has the same type of specific role that Quick or JB has with the exception that he is given much less ice time to prove himself.

I am not pro goon or anti goon. I am pro fight whoever drops the gloves and that is why I love Clifford but I am not going to bash Westgarth when I think he is doing as good of a job as can be expected of him with the limitations that his job allows, especially as a rookie at the NHL level.
Again, I don't think anyone is comparing Clifford and Westgarth as players but illustrating effective intimidation and deterrence (Clifford) versus a facade of intimidation and deterrence (Westgarth). It's nothing against Westgarth personally as he's fighting a losing battle against an irrelevant role. This isn't the era where talentless goons can just run around smashing and cheap shotting any and every player to deter the opposition.

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