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Originally Posted by Zuccarello Awesome View Post
No, I'm not just calling Boyle a better penalty killer over 4 SH points. I'm just arguing the SH points and plus/minus stats against people like you who use every possible non-negative as a huge positive for Anisimov, yet those very same attributes don't count for Boyle because he's a few years older and wasn't drafted by the Rangers. Boyle is at worst, a comparable PKer to Anisimov, and has certainly been more of a threat shorthanded than Artie. No, it's not the goal of PKing, but would you rather spend the PK in your zone and hope for a clear, or push the issue and try to create something shorthanded while the other team's guard is down? Would you rather be tied or have a 1-0 lead?
You can't use four shorthanded points over the course of a season's worth of penalty killing to make large assertions about the quality of Boyle's game. It's not statistically significant. I simply countered your claim that those four points somehow make Boyle a better PKer than Artie.


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Don't tell me Boyle is what he is and doesn't get the same right to the benefit of the doubt in terms of continued development that Anisimov does. He's a few years older, but he's still in the same boat as Anisimov. They're 2nd-year players. Neither are consistently proven. Both are still young and can and likely will improve. I happen to see Boyle as a better fit for the identity of this team and the direction they're heading in. If you disagree, that's perfectly fine. But let's call a spade a spade.[/B]
If you don't understand the difference in room for development between a 22 year-old who hasn't filled out yet and a 26 year-old who likely has hit his physical prime, then we don't have a lot to discuss. It's not about AA being a "better fit for this team" whatever that means. It's about AA being a better hockey player now and in the future.

Boyle is a cycle, grind, and bang guy. That's what he is. He got better this year because he improved his skating and started throwing his body around. There's a difference between making strides in those areas though and making a leap in talent. Boyle isn't going to magically develop the skills and hockey sense of AA at age 27.

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