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04-19-2011, 11:52 PM
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Wow, saying that there is a lot to catch up on, would be an understatement. I'll try to answer what I can, in order, starting with the stuff from the last thread:

Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe View Post
Apparently someone wanted to be able to select mediocre modern players, while still being able to chastise others for "homer picks" for taking modern players he didn't like.
Is it possible that ZM was just a "warm body"? Just a "VI not trying and not taking anyone he wanted for his own team"?

I recall VI commenting on ZM's picks before, but I'm too lazy to check how far those conversations went.

Good act, anyway.

As for ZM, "his" only purpose this draft was to **** an overeager rookie via trade (before making a bunch of "homer" picks like Mike Fischer at the end). Luckily, the trade committee did it's job.
Maybe it was to make a point about trading ruining the draft?

Obviously, all three teams must be stripped of the right to vote in this draft.
Yes, absolutely.

Dwight had ZM with him, and Cognition had VI with him for a while too. I assume we are all in agreement that those two teams are clean? I, for one, endorse them.

I'm not really buying that there was some big compromising of integrity here. A minor one, sure, but it didn't really affect voting/results. ZM was a half-assed GM and I'm sure VI designed him that way. He stole a player someone else wanted here and there, but not many.

The big offense was that when we were trying to make this a democratic process, he had three votes:

all three posts say "VanIslander" now, but that was VanIslander, The Sabre, and Zamboni Mania, all strategically voting 3-4-1-2, for the "trade conference" idea and against the "three trades" idea that was on track to be the popular idea.

Originally Posted by BiLLY_ShOE1721 View Post
MVPeyton is legit though, right? He was "The Sabre"''s co-GM, and he's been in a couple ATDs before.....
definitely legit.

Originally Posted by ReenMachine View Post
Not to mention the endless paranoia in the future
Let's not get carried away with paranoia. This should not happen again. Who would try it?

Originally Posted by Boy Wonder View Post
I know for a fact that Dwight is legit, he is T-Kabs from the Leafs central board.

Originally Posted by Boy Wonder View Post
He created several accounts, essentially. Normally, this shows up in your "user map" that most forums track. How he managed to slip by that is beyond me.
I'm not sure if you're saying the board should have automatically caught him, or that I should have.

I'm not sure how the board works, maybe there are certain filters and his IP was dynamic enough that it didn't pick anything up.

As for me, I admit I saw a lot of similarities between VI and The Sabre for weeks. With the exception that The Sabre treated me pretty poorly (like VI wanted to treat me, I guess?) I never thought to check the IPs.

I obviously had no idea about ZM, and I know no one else did either.

Originally Posted by Boy Wonder View Post
Not exactly sure what you're saying here. Are you saying all his accounts had the same number of posts?
I know VI had 10,000+ posts earlier today and now has 11,000+ posts. So the post count he now has, is just the sum of all three accounts.

Originally Posted by BiLLY_ShOE1721 View Post
What he's saying is all the posts by ZM and The Sabre now show up as VI, as do the VI posts. I, along with him, don't know how this is possible. Unless he's already brought it to the board moderators and they consolidated the accounts, which I'd be surprised if they did. And I'm 99% sure Dwight is legit. He seems nothing like VI anyway.
That's what they do if someone has multiple accounts, like TDMM said.

and yeah... Dwight is definitely legit.

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