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04-24-2011, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gravytrain6t View Post
It's quite possible Tortorella was responsible for getting the players to overachieve but at the same time "no freakin way we overachieved to get into the playoff's?"

If you're admitting it was possible for Torts to get the players to overachieve with the way our players played (which resulted in the team barely getting into the playoffs), then that in fact, is over achieving (and in touch with reality as well).
So how do we judge, or measure the coaches effort, and where is the bar set, if we're not sure if Tortorella was greatly responsible for the team's effort (or getting the players to overachieve)?
If he was (responsible), the bar should be set much lower than if he wasn't, correct? Right off the bat though, you're admitting that you're not sure.
I was a bit confused by the verbage in Ola's post myself.

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