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05-03-2011, 05:53 AM
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I thought that's what you had said, someone else corrected me and pointed out you were talking about his previous fight.
I'm not really going to argue with you about this. If you found the fight entertaining, then hey, good for you. I found it boring, and so did my friends who all do MMA. Matter of fact, two of my buddies train with Firas, GSP's trainer, and one of them already practiced with GSP himself. But hey, they probably don't know jack too.
You say you're beginning to wonder if I'm even a fan of MMA, well, did I ever say he flat out did not want to take him down? I said, he barely made an effort to do so, for whatever reasons (confidence, gameplan, injury, etc..) . I would expect someone that is as poor on the stand up and so great on the ground would try to shoot more aggressively, more often, but hey, I guess going for it 4-5times(which averages down to 1/5minutes ; once a round) is enough for you. It isn't for me.
As for Silva, he's the best P4P because he hasn't lost since 2004 (obviously not counting the loss in 06 where he got DQed for an illegal kick). Since then, only two of his fights went to a decision, out of 16, and 11 of those are title defenses. He's dominated fighters, completely, he's beat up some of them, he was taken down by some and managed to submit them off his back, he's come back to pull victories he might not have earned, he fought and dominated both Irvin and Hendo at 205, he's done it all and that's why he's the best P4P.
Since winning his belt back, GSP has had 6 title defenses, 5 of them went to decisions. The one time it didn't, it was a corner stoppage before the last round.
I don't even think it's debatable really, Silva is the best P4P, miles ahead.
I'm not taking anything away from GSP, he's my 2nd favorite fighter actually
, but I found that fight to be boring. If you enjoyed it, then good for you.
The reason why Silva's takedown defense isn't so great is because he can submit guys off his back. Might not be the smartest thing, as was shown in the Sonnen fight, but it did lead to him winning anyways, because he is so, so dangerous, at all times, which is the mark of a true ultimate champion imo.
I strongly doubt GSP will go up to 185. He doesn't want to go up, he said it himself, going up to 185 would mean changing his whole career. He'd lose a lot of his speed which is arguably his strongest quality. A loss of speed and flexibility, I'm sure that's why he isn't too keen on making the jump. I strongly doubt he would beat Silva, not at 185, I would be quite surprised actually. His only chance would be to turn it into a complete wrestling match, like Sonnen (or should I say Steroid boy) did, which would make for another very boring fight.
I don't think you really put much thought into a A.Silva vs GSP fight really. Quite unrealistic to think GSP, who's been a less dominating Champion in his own category than A.Silva has in his, would add 15 more lbs, and not only win the fight but be a Nightmare to the point of kicking A.Silva's ass.
In the end, I don't think we'll ever get a chance to see that fight. I doubt GSP decides to make the jump to that weight class, and I think that's a smart decision from him.
Yes, *young*, for the UFC, not with age or experience. Perhaps I should have said a promising new star to the UFC. I don't think he was ready for a title fight just yet, and after the fight, it was clear to me that my thought was spot on. I felt a match up vs Nick Diaz would be better, and you can go back in previous UFC threads that date quite a few months back where I said this. Now that Strikeforce was acquired by the UFC, it seems White is trying to make that fight happen, which also further backs up my thought that GSP vs Silva just won't happen, at least not yet.
But hey, I don't even understand how MMA works, so what do I know. I guess time will tell.
You're right you don't. You basically have no clue what you're talking about. I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. It seems you do so even when you have a very limited knowledge. I know, I know, all your friends are fighters ect, lol. Sure.
AS is not miles ahead of GSP, he has holes GSP doesn't have and if GSP takes his time to put on the weight properly, he will beat the piss out of him, being flashy has nothing to do with skill. Mayweather is at least twice the boxer pacquiao is, but all the hype is always for Pacquiao. I'm not gonna address the rest of your post because it's a bunch bla bla bla.
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