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05-05-2011, 02:36 PM
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Kurt Warner was a game winning drive by Big Ben (a guy on a HoF trajectory) away from doing pretty much that.
The Colts would have been
last year if you removed Peyton Manning.
Your argument concerning the value of QBs is remarkably bad. The very rules of the sport have been augmented to emphasize QB play more (pass interference, etc.), and that is on top of the fact that offensive schemes have come to rely heavily on QB play at the expense of other positions. RBs are far less important today than they were 20 years ago (if you don't believe me, then I'm assuming you don't play fantasy football).
The only comparable value to an organization is an elite defense, but that is truly a teamwork enterprise... whereas QBs have a great deal of individual control over the fate of their offense. An elite QB can make a mediocre WR into a good WR, but an elite WR isn't going to fix your problem at QB if the QB sucks.
When Brees came to the Saints he made a 3-13 team a 10-6 team in ONE year. 31st in the NFL in pts, to 5th in the NFL. 20th in the NFL in yards, to 1st.
Another bad argument.
Drew Brees was originally drafted by the San Diego Chargers. He went 8-8 in his first year there.
In in his second year with San Diego, the Chargers finished 4-12 and Brees was replaced at QB with Doug Flutie.
San Diego had so much confidence in Brees that they then traded for Philip Rivers to replace him, which he eventually did, after a money dispute.
As for the Saints being 3-13 and then going to 10-6 you neglected to mention a couple of things.
First, the year before Brees went to New Orleans the city, and the team, was dealing with affects of Hurricane Katrina which devastated them.
If you look at the year before that, in 2004, they were a team that finished 8-8. So they weren't a bad team to begin with.
In the year after they acquired Brees, his 2nd with them, they finished 7-9 and in 3rd place in their division and out of the playoffs.
The year after that, they went 8-8 and finished dead last in their division and again missing the playoffs.
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