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Originally Posted by Coppy
Yeah Roman Malek, Bernd Bruckler, Dov Grumet-Morris, David Tremblay, Jeremy Duchesne, Jakub Kovar, Jacob De Serres and Adam Morrison all could have been NHL goaltenders if they had just tried a little damn harder.
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No where did I come even close to saying that any of that. The Flyers have drafted talented Goalies in the past. Some of that blame falls on the players.
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Originally Posted by Coppy
They didn't backfire? Leighton's, Walker's and hopefully Shelley's future with the organization will all be with the AHL.
Again, I don't pick those moves because they backfired. I picked them because it was obvious to the fan base that they would backfire. They are cases where the fan base was right and the professional organization was wrong.
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Sure you picked them because you think they backfired. And it wasn't obvious that they backfired. Fans may not have liked the choices right off the bat. I didn't either. But that doesn't mean they knew they would backfire.
The Flyers were looking at Boucher and maybe Backlund as their Goalies last off season if they didn't sign Leighton. Leighton had backstopped the team to the Cup Finals. So Holmgren signed Leighton as a fail safe. They didn't know Bobrovsky would emerge so quickly. Was it a great choice, no? Could they have went after Niemi or another option? Sure. But again, it's real easy after the fact to say see, I told you I was right. I'd like to see you make all the decisions Holmgren has to make and see what your average is. But you ridiculously think that you can get a few right, and think you know better
Again, as I said earlier, Walker is a competent NHL defenseman as a 6th or 7th. If not for Cap issues, he'd be on this team. Shelley may or may not be on this team. But he is exactly what he is supposed to be. And I have no problem with him on this team as a player. I don't like his Cap hit, but he has a role on the team.
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You stated that the Flyers have a limited number of contracts they could give out, and Eriksson wasn't worth one of them. Later you stated that you don't care that Walker is down in the AHL wasting up a contract slot. So you either care about who the Flyers waste contracts on, or you dont.
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Your incorrect. The Flyers do only have a limited number of contracts. I never said Eriksson wasn't worth one of them. I have no idea whether he is worth one or not. I said the Flyers don't feel that he is worth a contract at this time. And no I also didn't mention anything about Walker wasting a contract spot. Your also incorrect there. I said Walker can be removed from the Flyers Cap and sent to the AHL, and that I don't care about the money on the payroll as a fan. That's what I said. And also, having a veteran D man on the Phantoms isn't a bad thing. You have to put a team together down there with at least 6 D men taking up some of the 50 contracts. Not a problem having Walker being one of them.
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Originally Posted by Coppy
I say that I think the Flyers were wrong to not sign Eriksson. But I am apparently wrong because it was professionals that made that decision. That same logic can be applied to every move the Flyers make.
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You have no legitimate basis to say that they are wrong. We've already covered this. Do we need to go over it again?
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Originally Posted by Coppy
In another thread you said you thought the Flyers were wrong to give up a 3rd round pick for rights to Bryzgalov. But you are apparently wrong because it was professionals the made that decision to make that trade.
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I didn't say they were wrong, I said I don't beleive in doing that. I'd rather they talk to him for free on July 1. Which they could do. See I have a factual basis there to make that determination. There is no gray area such as not knowing if a player, Ericksson, is worthy of signing to a contract. It's a completely different situation.