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07-05-2011, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MoobMoob View Post
Seems to me TORs troubles are burke suffers from the same myopia that many posters here suffer from: All he sees is how big the player is.

I think many of the posters on this board are overrating TOR immensely. Their D is bigger, but the only one that I'd even consider for my team is Schenn. Franson is big and has decent passing abilities, but doesn't seem to have the vision to make plays without the puck. Phaneuf and Komi both care more about making the hit than retrieving the puck and don't play well positionally.

I wouldn't have made this trade, because Franson isn't what the habs need on D. What they need is a large physical shutdown D for the bottom pairing. Someone like Mara, but better if possible. Not a large, soft, offensive Dman. Franson for Gill? Sure. Franson for Gorges? Nope. Franson for Weber? Nope. Gorges is a very effective shutdown D who is slowly adding a bit of offense to his game(Not much but a bit) which outweighs a marginal D with more offensive potential with the rest of the lineup. Weber looks to have much better vision with about the same offensive abilities, so I'd prefer keeping him and seeing what he's got to trading for a shiny new Dman just because he's bigger.
But let me guess... you're totally on board with that being Weber (that's who it'll be) instead of Franson (Franson plays on the right, btw). And wait... you'd trade Gill for Franson? Doesn't that go exactly against what you just said?? Franson isn't just "shiny and new", btw. Not only is he bigger, he put up more points in a single season in the AHL than Weber's best, AND he actually has more than 10 NHL goals (and 50 NHL points) to his credit. I know Weber is one of those players that people just love for, well, very little reason (shot? AHL points? Swiss underdog?), but it's entirely likely that having a similar ability to be involved in scoring plays coupled with a larger frame will make Franson the bigger contributor in the NHL both short term and long. Heck, he's ALREADY in the NHL contributing more than Weber. If I didn't like Gorges so much and value the work he has put in on the defensive side of things so much, I'd be willing to dump him for Franson as well.

If Price really is the real deal, and we already have Markov, Subban, and Gill around (and Tinordi in the pipeline), exactly how much defense do we have to insulate him with at the expense of fixing the same problem we've had for years: scoring goals?

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