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10-20-2003, 12:43 PM
Join Date: May 2002
Originally Posted by
John Flyers Fan
I'd love to hear how Holik is much the better player. He's really turned those Rangers around, right ??? The Devils certainly have been devastated by the loss of Holik.
Madden had a very good playoff, no doubt about that. the one point I'll certainly conceded is that he does have a knack for scoring big goals.
The great Madden had 19 & 22 for 41 points last year. yes he played against the other teams top line every night. yes he contributed to the Devils very good penalty killing team.
The awful Primeau had 19 & 27 for 46 points last year. Played against the other teams top lines every night. Was our best face-off man by far. Was one of our key penalty killers.
Id Madden a fastet skater than Primeau, probably but it's a hellluva lot closer than you might think. Primeau may not be the shiftiest player in the world, but he has good speed. What advantage Madden has in speed Primeau makes up for with 6 inches and 30 lbs.
If you want to argue that Madden is better than Primeau, I'll concede that, but if you think it's not close than you're not being fair to Primeau.
Exactly. Keith Primeau constantly gets dogged on around here for whatever reason and to be honest, it's unfair and I'm getting a little irritated with it.
Keith Primeau is bar none the best defensive forward the Flyers have-he's matched up against the opposing teams number one center every game as evidence of that. Take a look the next time the Flyers are in a one goal game late in the 3rd period and usually the guy you're going to see out there is Primeau-not Roenick or Handzus.
With Madden you have a case to argue against Primeau, but with Holik you have nothing to stand on. The Devils haven't lost a step without the "defensive stalwart" that Holik is and the Rangers haven't exactly righted ship since he arrived.
Like John pointed out, Keith Primeau is every bit as good as Holik and without Primeau the Flyers would be in a lot of trouble. He's vastly more important to the team than you give him credit for.
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