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07-13-2011, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ReginKarlssonLehner View Post
This isn't the argument, there is a huge difference in their play, you are trying to twist my words around. I was arguing high-end skill only.
I think the crux of our argument is centering around the phrase "high-end skill", which IMO, doesn't necessarily *just* mean skating and a flashy stick. Guys like Datsyuk, Toews, Crosby, Kessler and Ovie have proven that players who truly yield high-end skill should be able to use it in other facets of their game -- skills should compliment a player, not define them.

"Intangibles" has become an all-encompassing word for sense, drive/ethic, defensive stick, leadership, etc...those skills matter as much or more than stick work. That's why, IMO, "high-end skill" encompasses more than just skating, shooting, and stick-work.

A player with high-end stick work should be able to maneuver the puck not only around defenders, but also away from the opposition. A +skater should be able to utilize his speed around all areas of the ice to truly deserve the term "high-end".

Maybe I'm completely off base

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