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07-19-2011, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Roulin View Post
So Pouliot, Sergei, D'Ago and O'Byrne (who was no longer a kid, he is older than Gorges) are JM's fault, but Price, Subban, Pacioretty and Desharnais did well in spite of the coach? You can't have it both ways.
You absolutely can say that a coach is not good with young players "as a whole" even if some young players manage to succeed.

but since you brought up the names:

Price wasn't exactly shinning in 09-10 under Martin, was he?
same for MaxPac...

and Subban, who showed in the 09 playoffs that he was ready for a permanent top-4 role, found his play deteriorating leading to a benching... i seriously wonder if we would have seen him return to form and reach the heights of his stretch-run/playoffs performance, had Martin had not been forced to keep giving him big minutes as a result of our injuries on defense.

but that's irrelevant, because an individual players success/failure is never entirely the coaches "fault", nor is it "thanks" to the coach.

My feeling is that Martin's approach with young players, which he's shown relatively consistently, but mitigated by need (i.e needing Subban to play big minutes, needing to call up MaxPac and play him in the top-6, both b/c of injury AND the player making it absolutely irrefutable that they are a far superior option to the veteran options he has), is NOT the best way to ensure the team gets the most out of them.

that's not the same as saying that EVERY young player is doomed to fail under Martin... you can't think in black/white terms, sport is far too variable.

but I think you can look at patterns, and some coaches have a pattern of not dealing well with young players.

in the past 2 seasons, how many other teams in the league have had 3 young players unable to get consistent minutes only to immediately thrive the minute they arrive in their new team?

where there is smoke, there's usually fire.

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