Around The NHL Part XVI
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07-19-2011, 10:26 PM
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Best to say that DeBoer has not proven himself as an NHL coach. He didn't have a whole hell of a lot to work with in Florida and he doesn't appear to have much more in New Jersey and it will only get worse if Parise doesn't come back.
This hiring seems almost typical of Lamoriello--easy to dump coming from outside the organization if things don't go right.
Questionable how reliable the Devils goaltending is.
Their defense is also questionable. Greene as their go to pwp qb--is no Niedermayer or Rafalski. White is old--has vision problems. Salvador is always hurt. Volchenkov also injury prone has little offense. Tallinder--a stay at home is a bit soft. How soon they can get Larsson, Merrill and Urbom up to speed is critical to them becoming a contender again.
Their offense is very questionable as well. Last place in goals scored last year. Almost 20 goals behind the second worst team. They put a good string together in the second half but they had the entire team trapping all the time. Personality wise their best forward Kovalchuk comes across as a selfish jerk. They really really need to get Parise signed to a multi year deal.
I really don't get people thinking last year was some kind of glitch. I really don't see this team going anywhere and I don't really see how Peter DeBoer--however good a coach he is--is really going to make that much difference. Lemaire could come in--and implement the old Devils style and get a respectable response but Lemaire is a really smart coach who has been around a long time but even he isn't capable of miracles. DeBoer is going to need more to work with.
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DeBoer is a stop gap anyway.
He'll be replaced by the end of next season.
Isn't that how Lou rolls these days?
Really disagree big time, on both fronts. Look, anything can happen, but I really don't think this was a short term hire at all. I especially disagree with the belief that he again doesn't have much to work with. I think there is plenty. The Devils still have some holes, no doubt, but you could do a lot worse with an "on-the-fly rebuild." Yes, Parise is a big part of it. I personally think he'll be a Devil for many years to come, but even if they are forced to trade him, I think they'll get a very nice return. I don't care what kind of a person Kovalchuk is. It really doesn't matter enough to counteract the fact that he scores 40 goals a season.
Parise, Kovalchuk, Zajac, Josefson, Elias, Tedenby, Zubrus, Steckel, Clarkson, Palmieri, Rolston...that's not a bad group of forwards. Perfect? Hardly, but it is not a bad place to start from. Parise (or the 2/3 solid pieces you get back for him), Kovalchuk, Zajac, Josefson, Tedenby, Clarkson, Steckel, Palmieri are all entering or still far from their primes. On the blueline, they have bigger issues, but in some ways, are actually very similar to the Rangers. They have a lot of depth, but not much high-end ability. With Larsson and Volchenkov, they have two defensive stalwarts that will be anchors on their blueline for a while. Greene is a solid 4-6 defenseman. Tallinder was horrible last season, but I'm not willing to write him off. He was a good player in Buffalo. Merrill and Urbom are both impressive blueline prospects, and at least one of Gelinas/Corrente/Taormina should be able to stick in the big leagues, if not more.
Just keep in mind it is a work in progress. Next off-season, they get Rolston, Salvador and Colin White off of the cap. Then they are left with one more year of Elias and his salary. That is a lot of cap space. They'll also be able to move on once Brodeur finally retires. In some sense, that'll be a relief for them as a franchise. Finding a goaltender in this league is not that challenging, either.
They have a couple of big holes, but there is definitely a foundation. I think they could easily be a playoff team next year. That roster (with even an adequate performance from Fatso) is stronger than NYI, WPG, CAR, FLA, OTT, TOR, and maybe even MTL and PHI.
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Based on what exactly? His Juniors?
Well, yes. Pete De Boer and Guy Boucher are, IMO, two of the smartest (if not the smartest) "young" coaches in the game right now. Their systems are different, but they both stress efficiency and place an emphasis on maintaining a consistent effort to prevent opposing team's from gaining significant zone time. As bad as the Panthers are, you could see that even with them. The players weren't good enough to over come the disparity in talent, but you could see plain as day that De Boer was trying to get his team to play his way. There is only so much a coach can do.
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