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10-22-2003, 05:04 AM
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: St. Thomas Ont
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Holy smokes, the "full of ****" detectors are going off like crazy. Gauthier costs the Flames at least a goal a game does he? Hmmmmm, then how do you explain him being a + player on the +/- rating system? Players who are normally defensively poor see their numbers go well into the negative side of the +/- barometer.
Also, if Gauthier is so poor defensively, then how come he is one of the Flames top ice time players short handed and 5-on-5? The only reason he is not higher in the ice time stats is because he gets ZERO minutes of PP duty, compared to the FIVE plus that Leopold, Regehr and Lydman each get every game. Also, why is he always on the ice at the end of a game when the Flames are trying to protect a lead? Sutter continually tosses him out there to nurse the lead. Is Sutter an idiot and doesn't recognize a poor defenseman when he sees one?
Sorry, but you don't have a clue what you're are talking about. All of your little threories about Gauthier are continually blown out of the water by the NHL stats, and by Sutter's use of the player. Add in the comments from other players about who they hate to play against from the Flames, and the desire of other GMs to acquire Gauthier, and you have a pretty substantial case to support Gauthier having some very good value and a good arguement about him being a solid top four defender on most teams in the NHL.
And as usual Lanny you do not have a freakin clue what you are talking about! I think most of the CP'ers are right and you don't even watch the Flames. How many hard core fans over there have said the exact same thing? As for plus/minus that stat means squat, lots of soft players have had good plus/minus in the past and as for last season two words, Bob Boughner. You know, the same Bob Boughner that publically criticized Gauthier's positioning once he was dealt? Not enough? O.k., let's review the games. Our 1st game against Vancouver Bertuzzi opens the scoring on the PP after standing there unchecked by Gauthier who never even gave him a trace of a hard time but just stood there and watched him take the pass and blow it by Turek. Then rather then throw a body check later on in the game he clotheslines a Canuck taking a stupid penalty and low and behold they score again. So he cost us two there.
The Sharks game I did not get to see so I cannot comment. The Grease game he several blunders but got away with it. Against Buffalo he took a dumb penalty that cost us a goal, only Ference was worse that night, and last night again he was blowing his assignments against the Wild. Face it Lanny, as usual you are totally full of crap! You don't even watch the Flames, you used to but now you simply lurk to whine and complain about whatever strikes your fancy while in reality you are clueless about the subject your grouching about.
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