[NJD] Trent Hunter and Colin White(Update: White signs with Sharks)
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08-02-2011, 11:59 PM
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i think it's this kind of approach that ultimately has hurt us in terms of regular season/deadline roster moves.
by spending right up to the cap, the flexibility the team has to be a "player" on the trade market is greatly diminished.
Spacek is an incredibly expensive commodity given what he brings to the table at this point. Yes, he's better than relying on Diaz or anyone else from Hamilton if/when injuries hit, but I disagree that we should be keeping him on those grounds.
Having depth is important, no doubt, but if we could jettison Spacek (which in itself is highly unlikely seeing that White just cleared waivers... i realize they have different qualitites, but White slipping through @3M$ tells me that the "teams needing to get to the cap floor" market is pretty much exhausted), I don't doubt that he'd be easily replaceable prior to Oct 1st with a player that would cost <2M$ if not <1M$ (Mccabe, Campoli, Stralman all come to mind).
long-term planning should underlie all roster decisions, and cap space usage is a part of that.
there are a lot of quality "borderline elite" impending UFA's coming up in 2012, the kinds of players you'd expect to be re-signed, but every year you see a few players of that nature get moved in-season, wether b/c the team is falling out of the playoff race and ownership wants to save money, or the team realizes they won't be able to re-sign the player and would prefer getting assets for them...
when is the last time we saw the habs aggressively go after a player like that? It's incredibly hard to do when you are tight against the cap and HAVE to move salary the other way/at the same time.
keeping a cushion, one not dependant on key injuries/ltir, is a good approach imo, and while the habs currently have that, we lose that if we sign 1-2 decent players without moving some salary...
imo, with our roster as it is, White would do more to improve our team than Spacek will, hence why I'd be in favor of "swapping" them.
3 solid puck movers/pp skilled dmen, 3 solid defensive dmen with some grit, 1 wild card
add a guy like Campoli for depth and I'd say it's a pretty balanced, deep and reasonably priced, defensive unit.
Spacek @ 3.8M instead of White @ 2-2.5? isn't a huge deal, but if I had a choice, I'd prefer White + cap space, or for that matter, Spacek + Cap space (over Spacek + White @ 6-7M)
Well, I wouldn't prefer White + cap space or Spacek + cap space over White + Spacek.
Cap space is useless if you don't use it. So, if we do move Spacek and sign White at 2.5M, we actually increase our cap. We would end up with 6.5M free.
I don't think cap tightness has prevented us from doing any type of wanted movement before. We always were right at the ceiling, yet tried to go after guys like Vinny and Hossa, we got players like Schneider and Wiz. I mean, we can manage just fine even if we're close to the ceiling.
Also, a guy like Spacek is likely more movable around the deadline. A decent solid addition that will come at a low price tag for a PO team wanting some defensive depth. I think we have more chances of trading him then rather than now.
What happens is we do get rid of him now, save space and then fail to use it by the deadline? Then we can count our pennies and be happy about it?..
I always strongly believed there was no point in making a trade that will actually hurt your team more than help it.
Saving 3.8M doesn't help the team on the ice. Maybe it eventually will a few months later if we do bring in someone else, but there's always a chance that we bring in no one and just end up having unused cap space, which wouldn't help us at all.
Spacek gets a lot of flak around these boards. I disagree with many people's opinion regarding him. I think Spacek, on his natural wing, will be a great service to us. If he gets paired with Markov on the point for the PP (which is what I think management is currently thinking, as well as Emelin), then I could see him gain his scoring touch back.
In any event, cap space is only useful if you actually use it. You don't need to trade a player in August in order to gain more cap space for March. You can adapt once you actually reached the deadline. No need to plan it that far ahead, and especially not when you already have 5M free. If we bring in White, then we improve our defensive depth. Follow this up by moving Spacek and we worsen our depth. Maybe our group improved a bit seeing how White might be a better addition than Spacek, but it's a small improvement as opposed to having both White and Spacek.
People over-cherish cap space here. You don't move guys like Spacek in the summer so you can have a few extra millions in March. Maybe you'll need that depth, like last year.
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