All Purpose Proposals Mashup Pt. II
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08-03-2011, 09:55 PM
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I like Skinner, but to give up 2 firsts, Raymond (or Samuelsson) and Ballard he would have to be godlike. But this trade makes little sense for either team.
The Canucks are a proven contender who have no gaping holes, but could use a power forward on the wing and another puck moving defenseman. So why would they want to give a puck moving defenceman, a proven productive winger (neither Raymond nor Samuelsson is a power forward, but Samuelsson is big and sturdy) and 2 first round picks for a 5'11" centre?
I like Skinner and he has developed as an NHLer very rapidly. But part of that is because he was drafted on a team with no scoring depth and was able to step into a #2 centre role as a rookie. I'm still optimistic that over the next 5 years, Cody Hodgson will develop into a similar role - a PPG 2nd line winger/centre. With Kesler and Raymond out to start the season, Hodgson is going to get a shot at that same opportunity. It's up to Cody to step through that door. Long term - is Skinner an upgrade on Hodgson - and if so, is the upgrade worth 2 roster players and 2 first round picks?
The 3 Canucks players you have mentioned are at all time lows in terms of trade value. Raymond is recovering from a serious injury and had a poor season in which he was never really healthy. Samuelsson is 35 years old and coming off an injury plagued season as well. The Canucks expect both Samuelsson and Raymond to bounce back to 55 point / 25 goals seasons.
Ballard had the worst year of his career, but with Ehrhoff gone, he has an opportunity to take on a bigger role with the team and regain his role as a top 4, mid-tier puck mover. He should rebound to have a 30 point season with fewer errors in his own end.
So because of the risk with Ballard and either forward, you include 2 first round picks.
For Carolina, it makes no sense to trade a 19 year old who put up 63 points (30 goals), who is on an entry level contract worth $1.4M for 2 veterans coming off bad years with a cap hit of over $7M. while they have some depth at centre (Staal, Skinner, Ruutu, Sutter) and are thin on the wings (Jokinen, Ponikarovsky), it would make more sense to trade Ruutu than Skinner.
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