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08-16-2011, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreakmur View Post
My point remains the same. Playing for bad teams, which Berard did most of his career, just about guarentees a poor +/-.
Who said anything about +/-?

And I compared him to other defensemen on his own team. those defensemen had the same team disadvantage he had... didn't they?

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As I said already, he's below average but not terrible. You seem to forget that most people here watched him play just as much as you did. He wasn't nearly as bad as you are trying to paint him.
So, out of 180 #1-6 defensemen in the NHL, he's what, just a bit below average? 100th maybe? not a chance. He was among the very, very worst. I don't see anyone really defending his defensive ability, either.

You would have seen him in Toronto more than anywhere else. He was like a chicken with his head cut off most of the time there, and his stats only got a lot worse after he left.

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