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08-18-2011, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
I disagree 101. The fact of the matter is, we have a top 3 set of prospects. We had one of the youngest teams, and at times THE youngest team, in the league last season. We have a full array of draft picks. We are absolutely able to acquire anyone we want in this league that is put on the block. We can put a comparable offer on the table to match any team. To say that we are not capable of doing so is silly.
"We want a right winger that's top-6 capable now with top-line upside. And a #1C prospect."

Nashville can't match that offer. Columbus was theoretically able to do so immediately (Voracek and Johansen), which got conversations started; we managed to keep Johansen 'cause we had an early first-rounder in a draft with several quality centers, the better winger on the table, and a willingness to throw in a third-rounder as an 11th hour bribe.

Sometimes, people's demands are really tough to meet unless you just happen to be lucky.

Ideally for the Preds, a Carter trade would have happened before the Bryzgalov trade occurred, so that Rinne could have been offered. But for whatever reason, that didn't happen - maybe Holmgren's dreading new contract season next year or something. Or perhaps Poile doesn't have the kind of faith in Lindback that such a move would require. Or maybe that #1C prospect obsession loomed so large that Holmgren wouldn't have taken it even though it would have gotten him an even more spectacular goaltender. We'll never know for sure.

Originally Posted by hatedandproud View Post
Now the ones "we" could have been in on was Mike Richards and Ryan Smyth.
The other players in the Richards trade was schenn (a 5th overall pick) and Wayne Simmonds. Personally, I think the price combined with Richards' contract may have scared Poile off on this one.
I disagree. The Preds do not have a #1C prospect, and Philadelphia's pattern of behavior (particularly Holmgren continuing to keep asking about Johansen well after Howson made it clear Johansen was a deal-breaker) made it very clear that what they were dead-set on getting was top center prospects, top center prospects, and more top center prospects. Brayden Schenn was what made that deal. Nashville has nothing of the sort - not with Wilson on the wing. And Nashville didn't have an early first-rounder with which to draft a center prospect to get Philadelphia to eventually shut up.

This would be especially true if Carter still went to us - they very obviously wanted one of those #1C guys to be able to step in immediately (Schenn's already penciled in on the third line over there, for G-d's sake). Since we wouldn't give them Johansen, Schenn was pretty much the only other reasonable option.

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