Habs management doesn't get it...(umpteenth toughness thread)
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08-23-2011, 04:10 PM
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This is not whining.
This is a subject that many Habs fan feel that HAS been ignored.
Team toughness comes in many forms; all you had to do was look at playoffs last year and see how Marchand runs guys like Spacek with no detterent from our team.
You can trace this back from the Chara hit on Max to McLean's hit on Zednik years ago. The perception that you can run at our team with little concequence is REAL!! It DOES have an impact on the game when you don't get your skill player the room they need to make plays because they are INITIMATED!
It's real, it's been happening for years, so really STOP calling it whining.
Nobody wants to send a tough guy over the boards with little skill except to be the intimidator. But there were tough guys with some skill available and we missed them this year.... Rupp, Kanopka
Moen and White are middle weights, we do need a bigger tougher guy on the fourth line, personally I would take one to replace Moen.
Wade Belak was just on Team 990 and said that when you walked into Philly you knew that you were going to be in a hockey game. When his teams played in Montreal, he knew that the toughness dimension was not something to worry about and that they could then concentrate on other things.
no offense, but that part is BS, when you put names like these you're not interested in a tough guy with some skills, you just want a fighter, period...
I mean, for a fighter with (some) skills, Konopka sure spent a lot of time on the 4th line of one of the worst team in the league...
and for such a useful guy, it's kinda strange that he signed for league minimum (or close) for one of the, arguably, worst teams of the league... again
and dont tell me about Rupp, the guy is 31 years old, never reached the 20 pts mark, is in the minus (+/-) for his whole career, doesnt play on the PK... so yeah, that's how useful he is...
would I take him on my team ? well, depends, do we have a Crosby or Malkin to protect ? or any other 100/120 pts player that we need to make room for him/them to do their thing ?
reality is, guys like this are no Nilan or Ferguson... guys like these two are on a league of their own, I mean Nilan got 15+ goals 3X, 30+ pts 2X, even got 21 goals once... Ferguson got under 30 pts only once in his career, got 40+ pts 4X, scored over 15 7X, even got a 29 goals season and a 50+ pts season...
and while Nilan was good enough to play on the best shutdown line of his era, Ferguson was good enough to play on any top 6...
people need to wake up, fighters with skills are almost non-existant, 99% of them play a few shifts a night and that's all... if these guy (the 99%) had enough skills to survive in this league without the fighting, they simply wouldnt fight... they fight cause that's the only thing they're good enough at to get them a job on a NHL team...
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