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09-06-2011, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BringBackStevens View Post
Good points, and think voters are likely to look at it that way. For me MVP should be more about overall impact than relative team value. For example, halladay has a crazy WAR total this season last I looked
Two ways to look at the thing... what is the value of that player in a team neutral context, and what is the value of that player in a team perspective. If, ultimately, the sport is about wins and losses, I don't think you can ignore the team a player is on... in the sense that the impact that player makes on THAT season in terms of Ws/Ls is directly relative to his team. For example, an otherworldly pitcher that can go and post a good Win Pct for a terrible team is a lot more valuable (in theory) than a guy whose team would win a good amount of the time regardless of who is on the mound... same goes with a hitter in a stacked lineup.

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