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09-09-2011, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BraveCanadian View Post
Oh so now instead of half his career we're talking two seasons where he could have taken a run at the award before Gainey was hitting his stride?
I love how you assume that he only had a shot in a league without Gainey in it.

Ramsay had incredible defensive stats right from the very beginning in 1971-72. If the selke existed, he could have been a contender from 73-onwards, as I assume a rookie would not generate enough hype, and there is hype involved in this award. Gainey, from what I have seen, did not distinguish himself defensively in the 74 or 75 seasons, and it was his performance in 76 and 77 that brought about the fabled "let's create an award just for him" hype. what's never mentioned, though, is that Ramsay was outstanding in those seasons, too. Honestly, the guy might have had a 10-year stretch in the top-3 in voting.

In my estimation, based on actual ballots and voting points where ballots are not available - Gainey showed up on 270 ballots in 12 seasons; Ramsay showed up on 245 in 8 seasons. I'm not pushing anything outlandish here.

Can you take any future replies to the chat thread, please? jarek too.

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