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09-28-2011, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolCaps84 View Post
I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask this question, but I was curious about the Veteran Minor League Player designation. According to the CBA, a player (skater) can be designated a VMLP once they have played in 320 professional games in North America (NHL, AHL or ECHL). That number is 180 games for goaltenders. The exception to this is if the player/goaltender has been on an NHL roster for more than 80 games over the prior two seasons, or more than 40 in the season immediately prior. Since the language is "games on an NHL roster" and not "games played", it means that games in which the player was on the NHL roster but scratched still count toward the 80/40 number.

My question is whether this still holds true for playoff scratches. For example, when Hershey's season ended and Patrick McNeill was called up to Washington for the second round series against Tampa, do the 4 times that he was one of the Caps healthy scratches count toward the 80/40 number? Or is there an exception made for playoff call-ups? The CBA doesn't address this, so I assume that they do count, but I wanted to get some clarification.
As far as the NHL roster portion of the rule, the 40/80, games on the roster in the playoffs count.

Note, this minor league vet player rule is specific to re-entry waivers and a key component of the rule is it only becomes a factor for players making more than $105,000 at the AHL level. So for McNeill this is not an issue as he hasn't spent anywhere near that amount of time on the NHL roster, but also, McNeill's minor league salary is $105,000 (per capgeek), so re-entry waivers aren't an issue.

Sorry, I might have seen this faster if it was in the salary/cap/contract thread.

I try to run the calculations each year for the players where this might be a factor. Way OT, but a year ago I was wondering if Bourque had spent 40 days on an NHL roster between the Caps and Pens, but my count only hit the 30s so that wasn't a factor in his decision-making a year ago. As to this season, Bourque meets the rule requirements as he has played the 320 and doesn't meet the 40/80 by my count and makes more than $105,000 so he is exempt from re-entry waivers.

Some other players making over $105,000 in the AHL and under NHL contract who are minor league vets and are exempt from re-entry waivers: Aucoin and Richmond (plus Bourque). I never did the games on the roster math for Potulny because he makes $105,000 this season, but he spent a lot of time in '09-10 with Edmonton and has over 70 NHL games played over the 2 seasons. Given the 105,000, there's a chance he had hit the 80 games on an NHL roster and that could explain why his AHL salary is at the 'max' re. this rule compared to others of his type....note, he has a one way contract for the second season of his Caps contract.

Collins is an example of a player who hasn't played in 320 regular season games so he has an $105,000 AHL salary to avoid re-entry waivers (an issue for him last year when he was on a one way NHL contract and by definition made more than $105,000 at the AHL level.)

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