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10-26-2003, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by IceDragoon
Ya right. You've probably been looking for any opportunity to disagree with me.
Didn't your mama tell you to 'pick your fights'.

"the price of admission for Oilers' Ownership Group is" keeping the team afloat till the new CBA. That's all they promised, and it has already cost them some serious coin.

Now, think very carefully about your sentence that I hilighted. That kind of (count your chickens before they hatch) thinking can get you in a lot of trouble. This same reasoning also applies to; $5mil more in the player budget will have us "making the playoffs and going deep".

Sry, I'd rather stick to the 'big picture', than give in to 'instant gratifications'.

btw - I'm sure we all have thoughts on how the new CBA should work.
Too bad we don't get a say in those decisions.
OK IceDragoon, I'm dropping the gloves now! Hey it's alot easier to type now, but maybe I should let go of this Shtick too long enough to get serious for a minute. You appear to make technically valid arguments: "That kind of (count your chickens before they hatch) thinking can get you in a lot of trouble." Rightfully, you point out that my assertions are based on possible future outcomes (i.e. "$5mil more in the player budget will have us 'making the playoffs and going deep'"), but both the soundness and the validity of the agrument can only be challenged, if and only if, the premise on which said agrument is made is found to be false. Since the premise is a supposition, a supposed future event happening, it reasonably can only be tested in the doing of it - the Oilers actually bucking up and making the playoffs and going deep resulting in more earned revenue.

Of course, the opposite outcome is possible, the Oilers spending the money in a Dallas ... oops I mean Texas Ranger's like way - ya' know the good ole' boys down at the Haves Only private profit club divvying up the spoils cause ya' know ya' gotta' spend more money, to make more money.

Therefore, it is not my thinking process that is troubling you; it is that you disagree with the supposition (i.e. spend the money, make the playoff, win 2 or more series, the Oilers Ownership Group reaps the remunerations, the Oilers are financially healthier and the fans are happy. Ultimately, it is a risk vs. reward scenario. You either believe or you don't, and faith by definition predicates a positive vision or it becomes cynicism. That is why I disagree with Brynster statements and brought you to task for supporting him.

Further, for the Oilers' Ownership Group, Management, GM, Coaching Staff to expect young athletes to win, have belief in themselves, to have a positive vision is somewhat of a hypocritical expectation if they themselves wont risk capital (which is by definition what owners/management do) in order to be in the game of NHL hockey, win, and make money.

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