Do we give Holmgren enough credit?
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10-14-2011, 08:59 AM
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This appears to be where you just generally do not understand what a speculation or prediction is. Yes, it is VERY likely that Giroux will score more than Hartnell. No one has said otherwise and no one thinks Hartnell is going to score more than Giroux. But since it has not happened, it is not guaranteed. As you have pointed out in this very post, an injury could prevent this from happening. That is just one of the infinite number of variables that could cause this to not happen. Maybe Giroux slumps. Maybe Hartnell gets moved to top line PP and dominates. Maybe Giroux is just unlucky and Hartnell gets real lucky. Since it hasn't happened, it is not a fact or a guarantee, no matter how likely or unlikely something is.
Just as an example, relating specifically to a situation like this. In 2009, career minor leaguer Matt Moulson scored more goals than a ton of people, including such players as Evgeni Malkin, Martin St. Louis, Henrik Sedin, Pavel Datsyuk, and many others. In the beginning of the season, it was very unlikely and I doubt anyone in the entire world thought this would happen. But it did. He is not as talented as these players, and this was very unlikely. His past performance was all AHL and he had never scored that many goals in the AHL. Do you see what I am getting at? That no matter how likely something is to happen, if it hasn't happened, it is not a fact. It is speculation, fiction, guess, predictions, etc.
This was just a simple example of the myriad examples that have occurred throughout the history of the entire world. If you do not understand this concept, I really don't know what else to say.
Maybe Hartnell dominates? Do I have to respond to this? Again, let's deal in the reality. Hartnell is not capable of dominating. But let's not take that into consideration. You want to talk about Red Herrings and straw man arguments? LOL The Matt Moulson example is an outlier. Again, apply it to the real World. Who would a GM favor is any of those players were available to sign, including Matt Mouslon, and the team was in need of a top line player? This is a concept that you can't grasp! That's all that matters. And we go back to you and your buddy telling Invictus he was wrong, when he wasn't. The both of you were, and still are.
You bring up Red Herrings and Straw man references. When in fact, your premise is the Red Herring here and the straw man argument.
I've dealt in the reality. You arrogantly think that your premise of how it is fiction because it hasn't happened, isn't the base of the argument.
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