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11-30-2011, 01:21 AM
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It won't happen. They have the best manager in the history of the game and have had him for almost three decades. Sir Alex Ferguson is a living legend and is able to bring in new talent, at any cost, because the teams owners WANT to win. I'm an Arsenal fan, but Manchester United are one HELL of an amazing franchise with an incredible management.

But I see the point of your post, too, so lets play Devil's advocate. You could have used the New York Yankees also. Both those teams are the pinnacle of their sports and as such, have a fanbase that demands quality 100% of the time. I don't see why the Montreal Canadiens shouldn't be on that list, also, having won more cups than any other team in their sport, as have United and the Yankees.

The Montreal Canadiens are the most known hockey team in the WORLD and there is NO reason the fans shouldn't demand the best players, the best coaches, the best managers the world has to offer. No reason at all. Anybody that is content with this mediocre crap we've had to follow for the past decade has lost the sense of identity this franchise SHOULD have.
while i agree with your general sentiment.

different leagues, different rules.

the yankees have a payroll of ~201 million. the poorest team, has a payroll of ~36 million. the second highest spending team? they're at 172 million and the dropoff is quick after that. they've been spending at this rate for 20+ years now. they want a player, they sign him as free agents. nothing special about their drafting. yet, they've only won the world series twice since 2000. should we consider them a failure?

chelsea, united, arsenal and you can include liverpool for the lulz if you want are the top 4 of that league in spending. fun fact: since 92, there's been 4 champions in the premier league, united, chelsea, arsenal and the last time one of these 3 didn't win was blackburn in 94.

there is no draft in football and teams like chelsea, man u and arsenal just divvy up the best free agents (using the term loosely). in fact, the team management of the sport are so different i wouldn't even bother comparing them. by the way, im not saying they are not well run, the opposite.

by comparision, the NHL has a hard salary cap set at 64.3 million with a cap spending floor of 48.3 million. it has a rigid drafting system with an unbelievable parity and being the habs, they are still operating under a 'management must speak french'. sounds stupid i know, but it's as stupid as the rangers hiring a coach that doesn't speak english. i don't like that rule, i have a feeling it's going to eventually change but in the meantime: "deal with it". whether you like it or not, the canadiens are in a , you guessed it, a french-speaking province and while you may think "it doesn't matter", keep in mind you are posting in a message board where everyone that speaks french, also speaks english.

ask joe tremblay lost in his cabin somewhere near lac saint-jean if he'd like a coach that didn't speak french...

under those conditions, find me a GM and a coach that are better than what we currently have that speaks french and english.

go on, i'll wait.

for the record: i WANT the best coach and GM available, regardless of language. but im not arrogant enough to think that everyone wants or will accept the same thing i will.

it's fine to aspire or wish the team to be better but at the same time, pointing at teams like the yankees and united and saying "well why can't we be as good as they are" is stupid. it's stupid because you are ignoring the context of their championship wins.

attack at will...

in before: lol u accept mediocrity


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