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12-11-2011, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Men Rule View Post
Not impressed with either ERA really. It is an AL ERA basically though.

To call him a rock is an insult to those who are elite or great but not quite on elite status.
The AL average ERA over his career span is about 4.5. His ERA is significantly lower than that.

He's definitely not great or a HOFer (unless they let him in for the Dopey sports talk radio Win % argument) but he was a 'rock' in that he was consistently very good and even great on occasion. That's basically what a rock is no? Or are we really going to argue what a rock is?

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