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Evgeny Groshev, C


Apparently, one of these players is Groshev...

- World Championship Silver (1959)
- Olympic Bronze (1960)
- Russian League Champion (1957)
- Russian League Leading Scorer (1962)
- Russian League All-Star (1959, 1960, 1962)
- Was Also 7th in scoring in 1964
- 10 goals, 18 points in 15 international contests
- 236 goals in 450 Soviet League Games
- 6th in 1959 Worlds in scoring, led Russia with 10 points, no one else had more than 5
- 35th highest all-time Russian Scorer; in the Bobrov Club

Rn. Player Nat Team Euro Cups National Championships National Clubs transcontinental Total
*1 Boris Mikhailov 203 25 428 34 6 696
*2 Vladimir Petrov 189 32 370 15 4 610
*3 Vyacheslav Starshinov 149 2 406 28 - 585
*4 Sergey Makarov 190 59 322 5 - 576
*5 Aleksander Maltsev 212 - 329 16 1 558
*6 Valery Kharlamov 193 24 293 21 7 538
*7 Aleksander Yakushev 145 2 339 25 2 513
*8 Anatoly Firsov 134 14 345 12 4 509
*9 Veniamin Aleksandrov 117 - 351 22 - 490
10 Vladimir Krutov 152 34 288 6 - 480
11 Aleksandr Guryshev 70 - 379 30 - 479
12 Vladimir Vikulov 109 13 283 39 6 450
13 Helmut Balderis 72 3 333 19 - 427
14 Sergey Kapustin 118 5 278 12 - 413
15 Vsevolod Bobrov 94 - 254 31 - 379
16 Viktor Shalimov 66 3 293 17 - 379
17 Nikolay Drozdetsky 64 34 253 11 - 362
18 Andrey Khomutov 101 43 197 2 - 343
19 Vyacheslav Bykov 101 28 195 3 - 327
20 Boris Majorov 63 - 255 8 - 326
21 Igor Larionov 80 19 204 7 - 310
22 Konstantin Loktev 84 - 213 8 - 305
23 Aleksander Almetov 78 - 212 15 - 305
24 Vladimir Shadrin 71 4 214 13 2 304
25 Viktor Zhluktov 78 13 197 8 - 296
26 ******* ********* 3 - 263 26 - 292
27 Alexaner Skvortsov 41 - 244 7 - 292
28 Viktor Shuvalov 40 - 222 21 - 283
29 Vyacheslav Fetisov 96 28 153 5 - 282
30 ********* *********** 28 1 243 7 - 279
31 Alexander Golikov 42 - 225 8 - 275
32 ******** ******** 26 - 239 9 - 274
33 ******** *********** 17 - 252 4 - 273
34 Alexander Martynyuk 24 2 212 26 - 264
35 Yevgeny Groshev 12 - 236 15 - 263

He had three 1 st all-star teams, no one else available had two
He had a habit of being selected for the all-star teams despite not having the scoring stats of some other players
He had a soviet scoring title by a margin of victory of 27% over a bonafide ATDer
When he did play internationally he performed very well
His long term sustained production is similar enough to well-known players to make a reasonable judgment as to where he slots in.

Tommy Williams, F



Williams started his career with an excellent 1960 Olympic tournament, scoring 10 points in 7 games en route to gold. He then went to the NHL, where he played all three forward positions and posted 5 seasons with a percentage score of 47% or higher, topping out at 86% in 1970 when he was 15th in points. Williams then went to the WHA, scoring a respectable 89 points in 139 games in two seasons, taking home an AVCO cup, more than doubling his regular season scoring with a 17-point playoff. Williams came back to the NHL, posting one more strong offensive season with the expansion Washington Capitals - 58 points in 73 games, 23 more than any other player. Williams finished with 519 pro points in 802 games, and 27 more in 29 playoff games.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Complete handbook Of Pro Hockey, 1975 and 1976 editions
every team should have a Tommy Williams... Wily individiual who has played a few games in his day, all but 31 of the 695 since the fall of 1961 in the major leagues... a smooth, natural skater and a cunning playmaker... give him a couple of reasonably intelligent, hard skating wingers, and he'll give Washington a productive line...

if it weren't for him, Caps' season would have been even worse...


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