The "Fire Arniel" Thread
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01-03-2012, 07:32 AM
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I never said Howson was good at resigns or signing players, I said he is good at making trades, he always get something of value in trades. The Klesla trade was about dumping that bad contract so that we could upgrade in the offseason.
First paragraph: Doesn't matter what we are paying Wiz as far as my comment was concerned. Like I said above, I didn't say Howson is good at signing or resigning players, he's actually pretty damn terrible at identifying the correct people and signing them to the correct contract amount. This is all proven by the fact that he has overpaid decently for the services of Nash, Umberger, Tyutin, Brassard, Methot, Mason, Wiznewski, Commodore, almost Redden, and Huselius. Howson is terrible at identifying who should be the core guys and how much they should make, he has proven that by this seasons showing.
second paragraph: Howson did get good value for Klesla. He got a winger who provided solid secondary scoring and a bottom pairing defender all to help with the playoff push. The best thing he got out of that trade was an out on the bad extension he signed Klesla to in the first place, so that trade was definitely a win trade, now would I rather have Klesla on this teams 2nd pairing than Clitsome? Sure, but not at 3 million just like I don't think anybody liked Methot getting signed to a 3 million extension. He didn't piss away an asset, he got rid of a liability.
third paragraph: Hejda was a cornerstone of our tough to play against defense, but he also regressed significantly after he was injured to the point where he looked horrible on the ice often. Klesla wasn't a cornerstone on defense at all, in fact he was constantly injured, he did have a 4 good playoff games though, but other than that, he was still the same defender who couldn't make a good decision with the puck and Hejda was well past his prime, not only that, but our defense hasn't been good at all except for 2009, I don't know where you got the idea that the D was good, but our defense has given up at least a 3.0 GPG average every year since the playoff season.
The rest: Howson overpays in free agency and keeping his own players. I'm not sure why that is in the case of retaining his own guys, but the free agent market is more because the market demands the price (although I question the market demand for Wiz, Commodore, and Huselius at the price we got them). He has yet to make a bad trade or one that he overpaid in, but if you can show me one that he did other than the Klesla trade that I Just don't agree with, then by all means let me know.
Can't believe I'm defending this guy, I need to take a shower now.
First of all, no one will ever describe Scotty Upshall as solid secondary scoring. LOL He is as streaky as his hair. Howson brought him in to shore up our special teams instead of focusing on the PP QB that we needed. Again, Howson's focus was off target. He is so far out of touch with what is on the ice, just like his coach that doesn't know the stats of one of our biggest issues currently.
That's crap about Klesla not making good decisions with the puck. He is not known for his turnovers. He parked his big body in front of the net and protected our best interests. Sexy double digit scoring for a defenseman? No. But his job was to prevent. I find value in that. He was a huge part of our penalty kill and always logged heavy minutes. Not to mention, the boy had a heavy wrester.
There is no perfect soldier to play out an entire season, every season, all of his career. Every team deals with it. Our problem is not only lack of depth, but also forwards who don't get back to help out. We then have a situation where all the defensive options have to include sacrificing the body. The thing with Klesla going down was that it left a big hole. That's what made me holler "damn it!" when he was helped off the ice. Who was gonna pick up the slack? Calling up a kid from Springfield? Every time he went down, it was huge.
Is Wiz an upgrade? Sure. He currently has 1 more goal and a handful of assists more than Klesla. Is that worth the almost 3 mil more per year? Not to me. Is Wiz a dependable work horse? I don't know. He's out again. Injuries hurt more when it's a guy that logs the minutes. And they are always gonna be there.
And BTW, that over the hill, broken down Hejda came into town and scored on our ass while we were sleeping in front of the net with the more bang for the buck, younger, defense you justify on watch, most of whom are sitting in the press box.
You and I are never gonna see eye to eye on the Klesla trade. That's ok. The fact remains that at a time when we went looking for upgrades, the one player that generated both interest and offers was Rusty. It's not fair to dismiss him like he was crap when he clearly is not viewed that way in the league.
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