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01-05-2012, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jskramer83 View Post
Its not just an opinion, it is backed by the fact that arrests due to alcohol and violence, in the age group of 21 - 26 is on the rise. With the offenses getting more and more violent.

while most of your generation is not in this category, your generation is setting a new standard in drunken arrests
In actuality, doing a law degree with my main interest and thesis being in criminology, violence in western society has decreased within the under 25 age group in relation to population size all the way back to the 60's, with the late 70's and late 70's, early 80's and 90's being far worse than the modern day.

Don't have data for the specific age group in relation to alcohol, but the figures shown below indicate that without a ridiculous outlier, like most of the crime in our age group being alcohol related, (which would actually just mean the older generations were just nasty ****s, as they committed more crime, yet without the intoxicants!) there is no way that this is plausible.

This is all data from the USA, no european data included.


1975.
Population: 213,124,000
Total crimes: 10,253,400
Violent crimes: 1,039,710
Murder: 20,510


1981.
Population: 229,146,000
Total crimes: 13,423,800
Violent crimes: 1,361,820
Murder: 22,520

1991.
Population: 252,177,000
Total crimes: 14,872,900
Violent crimes: 1,911,770
Murder: 24,700

1998 onwards

1998
Pop: 270,296,000. Total Crimes: 12,475,634. Violent: 1,531,044. Murder: 16,914

1999 272,690,813 11,634,378 1,426,044 15,522
2000 281,421,906 11,608,072 1,425,486 15,586
2001 285,317,559 11,439,480 1,439,480 16,037
2002 287,973,924 11,878,954 1,423,677 16,229
2003 290,690,788 11,826,538 1,383,676 16,528
2004 293,656,842 11,679,474 1,360,088 16,148
2005 296,507,061 11,565,499 1,390,745 16,740
2006 299,398,484 11,401,511 1,418,043 17,030
2007 301,621,157 11,251,828 1,408,337 16,929
2008 304,374,846 11,160,543 1,392,628 16,442
2009 307,006,550 10,762,956 1,325,896 15,399
2010 308,745,538 10,329,135 1,246,248 14,748

Add to this that the median age group for crime, in the USA, is at an all time high of 36.7 years, compared to 32.9 years in 1990.

Add to this Felony arrests per 100,000, per age group.

Annual Average <-18* 18-24 25-34 35-49 50+*
1960-64 1,673.3 1,445.5 650.7 301.9 85.6
1965-69 2,160.3 1,637.4 742.5 333.7 92.6
1970-74 2,633.9 2,269.8 954.5 418.7 117.9
1975-79 2,918.4 2,534.4 1,078.0 486.1 141.9
1980-84 2,710.3 2,727.9 1,336.9 597.2 170.6
1985-89 2,827.6 2,881.2 1,603.7 705.1 165.2
1990-94 3,049.8 3,014.4 1,760.6 823.4 160.3
1995-99 2,581.0 2,699.0 1,490.0 823.3 136.6
2000-04 1,763.2 2,269.1 1,172.2 733.1 127.1
2005 1,541.7 2,158.1 1,188.0 756.5 141.6

You can see here that the age groups between 18-24 have decreased markedly... especially in comparison with the 35-49 age group, who have actually increased since 1985... the only group to do so. Also, in the chart further up, that across the USA, crime per population amount has decreased massively since 1975.

Add these two together, with the fact the median age has increased, it seems unfeasible that across the board, 18-25 year olds, and crime in general has decreased, yet alcoholic violence had increased in comparison, the two simply do not equate, unless there is some major outlying factor in the last 12 years.

During this time the population has increased by close to 40million.

Yet the violent crimes have decreased by 300,000.

The average age of criminals has increased.

Felony arrests for this age group 18-24, have decreased by over 25%.

Please do not make our generation into folk devils, especially when there is empirical proof that we are in fact, less violent, and less criminal, than any generation since those born 70 years ago.

Sorry for only small amounts of evidence, and the data not being interpreted as well as it could be... if this was on European crime it would have been far easier to show this misrepresentation of our generation, as it is one of my main research areas. Put it this way, people born in the 60's and 70's were far worse in general at aged 18-25.

Therefore, even if it is true that our generation has more alcohol related crimes, the older generations had far more violence, murders, and crime itself, from 1975 on wards, so the only age groups who committed less crimes than ours were those born from the early 30's to 1941, since then, were actually the angels of the bunch.

Rant over. Going to bed.


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