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01-17-2012, 12:27 PM
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4.25 million for a 45-50 pt dman... doesn't get you a 20+ minute per game guy.

If you want 20+ minutes and matching up defensively against top pairings, take a look at what Jay Bouwmeester and Brian Campbell got paid to supposedly do that job. You are talking 7 million plus.

We keep saying this is a bad contract... but its not.

Its fair value for a guy who will play 16-18 minutes on your third pairing with 6 defencemen, and who will score 45-50 pts.
right...

compare Kaberle to the worst dmen contracts given out in recent years, and sure, you can feel better...

just like any team in the league can look at the Gomez deal, and feel like they are doing ok with any underperforming player they have, b/c it's not that bad.


and it's still not even a good comparison, b/c JBo & Campbell are 25+min/night top pairing dmen...

~20min/night is second pairing guys on most good teams.

4.25M$, for a second pairing dman who can put up 40-50pts, makes sense...

guys like Hamhuis, Carle, White, Liles, Streit fall somewhere around that category, either being a bit less offensively productive but better defensively, or vice versa.

Kaberle is CLEARLY less effective than guys like that at this point (hence the 16-18min), and the reality is that he won't be a 40-50pt guy again with only 16-18min/night (on pace for 31 this year).

he put up the bulk of his 47pts while playing big minutes in toronto last year, his scoring rate fell off significantly when he went to Boston, where by playoff time he was down to 16min/game.

his ppg clip since coming to montreal has been great, but his ice time and overall effectiveness remains no where near the 4,25M$ range.

he's far closer to a MAB type (big pts in sheltered minutes/role) than he is to the quality 4-5M$ dmen who out there, who all get 20+min a game b/c of how well they play.

it's impossible to miss unless one is convinced that pts on the stat sheet line is the only measure of a player's value.

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