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01-19-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by phillyfanatic View Post
Who would have thought Steve Yzerman would win a Selke when he was 23. With Giroux' work ethic and mind, he is capable of shutting people down. IMO - he has been weak defensively this year for two reasons:

1. He is giving up plenty of turnovers with blind passes, forcing things
2. He is counted on to produce offensively first. Defense second.

I do believe Giroux has Selke ability. Giroux is much better on D then most of the elite offensive players in the league. He is a very special player.
Part of the reason he looked so good last year on defense was Carter. If Giroux has Selke ability, it hasn't shown long as Toews, Richards, and potentially even Couturier are in the league I don't see him getting serious consideration, unless he improves a lot. Hell, Jagr's GAON/60 is better than Giroux's. Jagr also has a +11 on the team compared to Giroux's +2, or Hartnell's +18. Those +/- stats line up nicely with the fact that other teams have been scoring a lot while Giroux is on the ice.

Most disturbingly, Briere's defensive numbers are higher than Giroux's, but I would bet that has a lot to do with Lavi keeping Briere out of situations that require good defense.

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